Hamas releases video of three Israeli hostages saying they'll learn 'fate' on Monday (www.standard.co.uk)

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The undated 37-second video of Noa Argamani, 26, Yossi Sharabi, 53, and Itai Svirsky, 38, released on Sunday night showed them speaking presumably under duress, pleading with Israel’s government to end the war and get them home.

The clip ended with a Hamas caption that on Monday, “we will inform you of their fate”. Israel has blasted such videos as psychological warfare and insists it will not be deflected from its goals in Gaza, after Hamas launched raids into southern Israel on October 7 that claimed 1,200 lives.

Among the targets was a music festival from which Ms Argamani and her boyfriend were seized. An early clip released by Hamas showed her pleading for her life as she was taken away on the back of a motorbike.

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[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Reminder that hostages were more afraid to be killed by israel's bombing than by Hamas

“We were in tunnels, terrified that it would not be Hamas but Israel that would kill us, and then they would say Hamas killed you,’’ she said. “So I strongly urge that the prisoner exchange begins as soon as possible and everyone needs to return home.’’

From every single hostage released we hear the same story, they were treated well, not beaten, just underfed when food started running out after a few weeks just like every other Palestinian in Gaza.

[-] nichtsowichtig@feddit.de -2 points 9 months ago

From this source:

Many of the Israeli hostages, according to interviews with family members, returned “malnourished, infested with lice, ill, injured and deeply traumatized,” the Times also reported.

Also important to note, it is likely that some hostages are treated under "acceptable" conditions for propaganda purposes. Also, many hostages' family members were murdered on october 7. So that unto itself very much contradicts with the absurd claim that they were "treated well".

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah they were fed well at the beginning but then israel blocked all food and medicine

Which is why there wasn't much food and medicine. The hostages even said that their Hamas captors divided it equally among them, giving them just as much as they had themselves.

You are not describing the treatment of the hostages, you are describing how the Palestinians are being genocided.

There is no contradiction. Many of the attackers on Oct7 were ill informed, rogue militia or from another group. There is even a video in t he israeli propaganda site of Hamas trying to stop a mob from hitting a hostage on a bike. The mob did not understand that they are not supposed to hit hostages.

Hamas isn't an organised army like israel is. Oct 7 was a secret operation, how much coordination do you think they had?

A few people commit crimes (which is very bad, no non-IDF should have been killed on oct7) does not mean that it is a doctrine from the top down. On the contrary the 1/3 military kills and only 36 children dying out of 1139 deaths (and most kids were killed by israeli tanks) suggest that the doctrine from the top was very clear: Attack military bases and take hostages alive.

Whereas with israel we can clearly see that the top of their army is advocating for the genocide of all Palestinians that their soldiers are committing by deliberately ordering bombings of hospitals, schools and refugee camps.

[-] nichtsowichtig@feddit.de -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

A few people commit crimes

They murdered 1200 people.

and most kids were killed by israeli tanks

disinformation. debunked here and here.

[+] DeadHorseX@lemmy.world -6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Numerous women who were released have testified that they and many of the other women they met in the tunnels had been brutalised, sexually assaulted and raped, as well as verification by doctors.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/at-least-10-freed-hostages-were-sexually-abused-by-hamas-in-captivity-doctor-says/

At least 10 of the Israeli civilians released by Hamas, both men and women, were sexually assaulted or abused while in captivity, the Associated Press reported Wednesday.

In a report detailing allegations of severe and widespread sexual abuse by Hamas terrorists during their October 7 onslaught and later against hostages, a doctor who treated some of the 110 hostages released from captivity told the AP that at least 10 men and women among those freed were sexually assaulted or abused.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/28/world/middleeast/oct-7-attacks-hamas-israel-sexual-violence.html

Many of the accounts are difficult to bear, and the visual evidence is disturbing to see.

The Times viewed photographs of one woman’s corpse that emergency responders discovered in the rubble of a besieged kibbutz with dozens of nails driven into her thighs and groin.

The Times also viewed a video, provided by the Israeli military, showing two dead Israeli soldiers at a base near Gaza who appeared to have been shot directly in their vaginas.

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The first victim she said she saw was a young woman with copper-color hair, blood running down her back, pants pushed down to her knees. One man pulled her by the hair and made her bend over. Another penetrated her, Sapir said, and every time she flinched, he plunged a knife into her back.

She said she then watched another woman “shredded into pieces.” While one terrorist raped her, she said, another pulled out a box cutter and sliced off her breast.

“One continues to rape her, and the other throws her breast to someone else, and they play with it, throw it, and it falls on the road,” Sapir said.

She said the men sliced her face and then the woman fell out of view. Around the same time, she said, she saw three other women raped and terrorists carrying the severed heads of three more women.

Sapir provided photographs of her hiding place and her wounds, and police officials have stood by her testimony and released a video of her, with her face blurred, recounting some of what she saw.

Jamal Waraki, a volunteer medic with the nonprofit ZAKA emergency response team, said he could not get out of his head a young woman in a rawhide vest found between the main stage and the bar.

“Her hands were tied behind her back,” he said. “She was bent over, half naked, her underwear rolled down below her knees.”

Yinon Rivlin, a member of the rave’s production team who lost two brothers in the attacks, said that after hiding from the killers, he emerged from a ditch and made his way to the parking area, east of the party, along Route 232, looking for survivors.

Near the highway, he said, he found the body of a young woman, on her stomach, no pants or underwear, legs spread apart. He said her vagina area appeared to have been sliced open, “as if someone tore her apart.”

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I have very bad news for you. They are literally quoting the "40 beheaded babies guy" from ZAKA in that article Nothing in there is true.

You prominently feature testimony by Yossi Landau, Southern Commander of the ZAKA organization. For critical background on Landau and his organization, we refer you to Max Blumenthal’s December 6 investigation for The Grayzone, “Scandal-stained Israeli ‘rescue’ group fuels October 7 fabrications.”

Were you aware, as The Grayzone documented, that Landau’s previous claims of having seen beheaded babies and a fetus cut from a dead woman’s womb on October 7 have been discredited not only by the Israeli newspaper by Haaretz, but by the Biden White House, which retracted the president’s claim that he had seen photographs of beheaded babies? In fact, only one baby is recorded among those killed on October 7, which means any claim to have seen multiple dead babies must be dismissed out of hand.

Do read the rest of the article it completely demolishes that rape IDF fanfic.

[-] nichtsowichtig@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago

yet again, the grayzone is not a reputable source. Also, just because there is some incorrect information about the october 7 attacks, it doesn't invalidate widely documented, independently verified evidence of the crimes commited.

Do read the rest of the article it completely demolishes that rape IDF fanfic.

There Was No Cover-Up of Hamas’s Sexual Violence on October 7 You are literally backing rapists who documented their own crimes. It's beyond disgusting if you ask me.

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