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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by bartolomeo@suppo.fi to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

We know what happens with peaceful protests, elections, and foreign interference (and more foreign interference), so how can Palestine gain it's freedom? Any positive ideas are welcome, because this situation is already a humanitarian crisis and is looking bleaker by the day.

Historical references are also valuable in this discussion, like slave revolts or the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, although hopefully in the case of Palestine a peaceful and successful outcome can be achieved, as opposed to some of the historical events above.

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[-] danhakimi@kbin.social 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Gaza has not been occupied since 2005.

Palestinian arabs have been launching pogroms against Jews without rest since 1920, but Israel didn't occupy the West Bank or Gaza until 1967. Maybe if Israelis felt they could possibly be safe without occupying the West Bank, they would try it. Like they tried with Gaza. Gee, look how that played out.

Gee, I wonder how Germany and Japan managed to get freedom from occupation... Oh right, they went with peace!

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 1 points 5 months ago

Ask the UN what they think of Gaza's status. Hint: They won't say "independent state".

[-] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 4 points 5 months ago

The United Nations, international human rights organizations and many legal scholars regard the Gaza Strip to still be under military occupation by Israel.[4] This is disputed by Israel and other legal scholars.[74] They argue that occupation requires an actual, physical presence by a military force that maintains authority.

Following the withdrawal, Israel continued to maintain direct control over Gaza's air and maritime space, six of Gaza's seven land crossings, maintains a no-go buffer zone within the territory, controls the Palestinian population registry, and Gaza remains dependent on Israel for its water, electricity, telecommunications, and other utilities.[4][75]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_disengagement_from_Gaza

[-] danhakimi@kbin.social -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I don't care what their opinion is, Israel in fact ended the occupation of Gaza in 2005.

People are now upset about a blockade that started in 2007. Aside from ignoring the reasons for the blockade, and totally ignoring the two years between the end of the occupation and the start of the blockade, people like to pretend the blockade is an occupation because it's not very nice and they don't know how to talk about an unoccupied Gaza (or because they're just too stupid to know what's going on there).

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