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@SpiceDealer my guess is the bike companies don't have as much profit for lobbying, but I like the direction of this. I'd love to see a grassroots movement demanding infrastructure for active travel.
I certainly don't. It's just as possible for us to make the same mistakes with bike infrastructure as we did with car infrastructure. The purpose of all types of traffic should be getting people from where they are to where they want to go, but these "bike superhighways" are the same bullshit we're fighting against with cars.
Out of curiosity, what are bike-highways like where you are? The most I've seen are bike streets where cars need to yield to bikes, or one way streets that work for bikes both ways
There aren't any bike highways near me at the moment, though some cities are starting to design bike highways the same way they made highways for cars. I want cities to thoughtfully design their bike infrastructure, instead of designing infrastructure to benefit lobbyists.
That's fair. I am also completely in favour of well thought out bike infrastructure solutions. Bike lanes just for the sake of bike ways with no connection to people's lives and usage patterns will do us no favours
But we should eliminate the worst forms of transit, shouldn't we?
Absolutely. But we also need to do thoughtful planning in rolling out our next forms of infrastructure
@rockSlayer why do you assume "active travel" is only bikes? what about walkable communities? what if I like to roller skate? why can't we collaborate in each community on how we want to get around and what the rules are?
Why are you assuming that I don't want mixed use travel? This conversation is specifically about bikes, and I was pointing out a specific design trend that's appearing in cities that is antithetical to the point of reducing car travel.
@rockSlayer I see later in the thread that you've talked about thoughtful infrastructure, which I starred. Unfortunately, that wasn't in my notifications, which is what I replied to.