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submitted 11 months ago by jherazob@beehaw.org to c/technology@beehaw.org

Duolingo is very much on the Enshittification path, seems like they fired a number of translators and have the rest just proofreading AI.

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[-] The_Terrible_Humbaba@beehaw.org 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's a bit over the top, in my opinion. I've tried plenty of courses, and Duolingo is pretty good to get a hang of the basics of a language.

I'd say, in my experience, the hardest part of learning a language is getting started, and I feel Duolingo is perfect just for that. To get deeper knowledge and become more comfortable, one should probably switch once they start feeling more comfortable with the alphabet (if there is a specific one), and with the basic vocabulary and grammar.

EDIT: Forgot to add but another advantage of Duolingo, is that it's also great to get a taste and basic feel for different languages; and that can be especially useful for someone who is looking to learn a new language but can't quite decide on one.

[-] Kalothar@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

Been using a multifaceted approach to cramming Italian in my little brain:

  • Anki flashcards (this is my main thing)
  • conversational pod casts
  • movies, shows and music
  • lastly, Duolingo

Any suggestions on what I could be using instead of Duolingo?

[-] The_Terrible_Humbaba@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The podcasts and other media consumption will probably be what most benefit you in the long term, and something like Anki and Duolingo I think are good complements for that.

Any alternatives to Duolingo that I think would be worth replacing it, would have to be something that is more focused on the specific language that you are learning, i.e. Nicos Weg for German (and I don't personally know any for Italian, sorry). Most other general language learning websites/apps would probably be running into the same issues and limitations as Duo, and which one to use depends most on personal preference; however, there is one I've heard of called Italki (there may be more) which basically acts as a language exchange app, where you connect talk to people who natively speak the language you are learning, and they can give you input. I've never tried it, but I've heard good things.

Other than that, you have certified online/in person courses, but obviously those are not as convenient as Duo, and they cost money (probably significantly more than even a Duo subscription).

EDIT: Oh, I forgot to mention, but one thing which I personally enjoy is looking up and trying to read children's books; and I mean like "90% picture & 10% text" books which are made for parents to read to their very young kids. And as you get more comfortable, try finding and reading increasingly harder books/stories online.

[-] MadBob@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago

I notice Duolingo is your only form of output. Is that a conscious decision? Otherwise I'd second the recommendation for something involving speaking to someone with the patience to, or who agrees to, have a conversation with you.

[-] Kalothar@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah, it is at the moment for the most part. My girlfriend is fluent in Spanish, and I have talked to her about general concepts that overlap.

We decided after I started getting deeper into the language that we should maybe not do that as much so I don’t pick up bad or flat out wrong habits.

I myself am of an Italian descent, however the relatives I have that speak it either live in Italy still and are estranged or sadly have passed away. There is an Italian grocery store near me, and I have heard them speaking it so I was hoping to strike a couple friendships up over time there.

[-] MadBob@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago

Well best of luck with it!

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