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That's right, never trust a private company that might go public in the future.
That's why you should build your communities on Discord instead. π€‘
That shit is the most infuriating thing ever to me. It seems like so many technical discussions and communities are going to Discord now where that information is not indexed or preserved. How many issues have I had where the answer was sitting on a Discord server that will never appear in any general search result?
Iβve tried to use discord before but it seems just kindaβ¦ awful. Itβs essentially a single uninterrupted, general purpose comment chain about a singular topic. Itβs a forum meet twitter but worse than either?
Yea that's cause originally it was just meant to be gamer friends voice chatting and text chatting with each other. They build all the other features on top of what they had originally so it's terrible as a reddit/social media alternative.
Yeah. I've come to believe the problem isn't Discord itself but how people use it. But I totally get your point. So many niche communities. I had to make a Discord account and then someone just fucking answers "!faq" and a bot pastes the answer. Why was that not on their GitHub page? It is what it is.
A Discord server can be created in seconds and can easily have everything they need. I get why they turn to it but it sucks.
Discord is the same thing as technical slack threads, or IRC chat. People try and use it as a reddit replacement when it really truly is not.
Forget reddit replacement, people try to use it as a wiki/documentation replacement.
Deranged behaviour.
The worst part is that it is preserved, as long as the Discord channel still exists, but is functionally impossible to find. Because search engines can't index it from the outside, and Discord's search function is just a dumb literal string matcher.
And that won't stop all the regulars in the channel from jumping down your throat anyway because you asked a question that was answered 17,782,169 chat messages ago. Didn't you see it? It's right there. Nestled in between said regulars posting pictures of their cats, or showing off the latest computer peripheral they just bought, or kibitzing about the weather in whatever towns they live in. Interleaved between six separate conversations that were also going on at that time. I mean, duh!
"Just search!" I did, and all the results I got were you guys likewise jumping down the throats of the last 200 people who asked the question before me.
I thought that Slack was what that use case is for. It's an acronym that stands for Searchable Log of All Communication and Knowledge. I didn't realize folks were using discord for productivity use cases.
Tons. A special firmware I use for my 3D printer is supported through Discord. All questions and new firmware links are posted there. Even with Slack being "searchable", unless I am mistaken, it's not indexed by search engines, right? So when trying to figure something out I would need to search for webpages and then also search Slack right?
Well modded discord servers for popular topics will have forum channels that behave exactly as you would expect them to. Sure they're not indexed on search engines, that much is true, but discord isn't the "blink and you'll miss it" live chat client that it once was.
I was specifically referring to the forum like sections. The lack of indexing and internet archive means large swaths of knowledge, timelines, history, and even culture will become dust in the wind.
Why discord? Everything on it will be lost without exception. Fuck discord.
It's why they put the clown face emoji at the end. Discord sucks so hard for finding information. The number of interesting projects that exclusively use Discord for their documentation is astounding and frustrating as hell.
I'm all in on Matrix. After hearing the words, "Nobody uses IRC anymore, everyone uses Discord now", I knew we were in trouble.
mIRC for the win.
Sweats in Mozilla
Mozilla is a non profit foundation, the corporation is owned by the non profit and exists for tax reasons only. They're different than a regular corp.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37000232
The NFL was a non-profit until 2015.
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is a non-profit that stopped the free distribution of a COVID-19 vaccine.
Non-profit status doesn't automatically equal good but Mozilla has been good so far...for the most part. It has had its own controversies.
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Not what I'm referencing.
https://kffhealthnews.org/news/rather-than-give-away-its-covid-vaccine-oxford-makes-a-deal-with-drugmaker/
Oxford originally pledged to give their vaccine away for free but Gates convinced them otherwise.
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Correct. I should have gone into more detail. Cheers!
Oh, I'm aware. Thank you for the link, though: It's interesting seeing people talk about Mozilla Pocket 5 months ago, saying user data doesn't leave Mozilla.
And now, thanks to a new subsidiary, it can:
Source: Mozilla
Well fuck, I guess enshittification is universal. The only safe space is community foss/libre projects I guess
And only as safe as the audit it gets