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Honestly only a million is a weak number. Three or four would have been good, six would make me think democracy might survive. The 2020 election was over $14 billion, and we've had strong inflation since then.
Getting people pumped to support Biden is like getting excited about plain toast. We best start acting like it's our first food in a month.
Democrats 101. Let perfection stand in the way of pragmatic voting.
Never underestimate the DNC's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory
DNC 101: let 1992 thinking stand in the way of 2024 solutions to 2024 problems.
Is everyone losing their fucking minds? I'll shove that plain toast up my fucking ass if it means my kids can keep waking up, going to school, and altogether living normal lives. Comfort apparently does breed contempt because nobody is really fighting for this shit. None of us were there before plumbing, before democracy, lets not fucking find out.
Yeah. One party wants minorities crushed, women dead in childbirth, and Christianity to be law. The other kinda sucks. None of the above isn’t happening. The Dems won’t learn a lesson from losing but the gop sure will learn from winning
>One party wants minorities crushed, women dead in childbirth, and Christianity to be law. The other
wants to maintain the threat of the other party getting power in order to solidify their own power. actually doing something about it would weaken their case for election so they never will.
At this rate we might as well vote for Vermin Supreme. Fuck it. Because they're all batshit crazy not listening to anyone but themselves.
I quite like cornel west
I like Cornel West, too. Unfortunately, I don't know if the left being fractured as it usually is will be as little of an issue as it sometimes is. At the very least, Biden has a chance and he and his party (shitty as they are) are not actual fascists.
>he and his party (shitty as they are) are not actual fascists.
I disagree
You think Joe Biden and the Democratic Party of the US are fascists?
oh, yes
Well, that's an interesting opinion that I strongly disagree with, especially when you compare them to the GOP
Yeah fuck it. Its our swamp. But dont really do either of those things lol
I miss when #BernItAllDown was a naive possibility for me.
I dunno, America seems to be in a real fuck around kinda mood this year.
I gave Bernie a ton of money because I knew he was getting mostly grassroots donations.
Biden has a bunch of millionaires to ask for money who have a lot more disposable income than I do. He can go ask them.
Meanwhile my $27 a month is going to bail funds.
Bernie outspent Biden in many states during the primary and still lost badly.
The reality is that the broader electorate isn't as left-wing as Bernie.
I think you missed the point he was trying to make. It wasn't about the merits of a candidate, it was about the type of person they use as funding sources.
I donated a bunch last cycle, but the DNC spent a fair portion on promoting 'spoiler' candidates in Republican primaries. I don't want my money spent on further radicalizing the GOP. If Dems are worried about money I have a great suggestion of a line item to cut that will cover far more than any contribution I could make...
I can't blame anyone for not being pumped about Biden. At this point he's making Reagan look spry and lively.
That's a big part of the problem though. The left needs a populist like Bernie or Obama in order to draw in the money and support. An institutional centrist like Biden just has nil for enthusiasm. Which has nothing to do with being able to be president, but at the end of the day, elections are popularity contests. And at this point, Bidens biggest personality draw, is that he's not Trump. Which is probably almost enough to win the next election by itself. If only by the barest of margins. Not really the kind of margin you want to risk the future of the free world on.
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It’s pretty telling that a dollar amount is an indicator of chances to win an election. The fact that you’re talking about this like it’s normal says so much about how fucked our political system is.
(Not at all saying that what you’re saying is wrong at all. Just commenting on how accustomed we’ve become to it that it’s normalized)
Oh it's completely fucked up, and I fully realize that. Worse yet, the million dollars that were reported is merely a polling sample of the actual cash flows to superPACs and other organizations both domestic and foreign.
I'll support Biden. Not super excited, but I'll still support him given the alternative.
After '16-'20, plain toast would seem like a welcome blessing amongst the shit the country had become.