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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by rootsbreadandmakka@hexbear.net to c/the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net

have to justify the attack on Lebanon somehow

also why don't we have a burning Israeli flag emoji?

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[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Any anti-imperialist anywhere burning the flag isn't anti-semitic.

It's not anti-semitic in Japan

It's not anti-semitic in Venezuela

It's not anti-semitic in Iran

It's not anti-semitic in Africa

It's not anti-semitic on Hexbear

It's. Not. Anti-semitic. Period.

Are these gentlemen in Caracas anti-semitic because they aren't jews or middle-easterners?

If you were protesting for Palestinian rights or against imperialism and burned an Israeli flag, that would not be an act of antisemitism, no. The issue faced here is that a lot of antisemites use imagery like a burning star of David, and as a result jewish members of this community have said they're uncomfortable with making a burning Israeli flag emote, and I think forcing the emote maker to do so would not only be difficult but also just a weird act.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

you keep saying the same stupid zionist concern troll arguments over and over. i dont accept them as valid. I think your argument is spurious lib nonsense completely and wholly without merit, equally as useless and meaningless as "from the river to the sea makes me uncomfortable". If a user is being anti-semitic, they can be banned. Being anti-Israel is not anti-semitism, and even accepting that argument part way and hedging with it is the problem and shows the mods (and their defenders) disconnect from the arab world and the wretched of the earth. Any arab user on this site is going to be perplexed by this weird hangup you have and your weird caving to the zionist argument on this one topic. Why? Why cave? Why imply Hezbollah and Houthis are anti-semites?

Also, as an Arab user of this site. Please don't speak for me.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago

well i'm also an arab and if I saw anyone whinging about an israeli flag burning i would punch them in the face

[-] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

No you wouldn't. I don't believe you are violently unhinged. I think we should let this matter drop.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If I was at a protest and me and the boys and burning American and Israeli flags, and somebody comes on and tries to stop us talking about how it "looks" yes they would violently be pushed away from it. In fact, something very similar happened last month at a local protest when the libs tried to put out the fires at such a thing. It's weird that the "official hexbear line" matches that of Egyptian comprador libs and not the enraged anti-imperialists. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills with how much of a lickspittle people in here are being and how white and opticsbrained they are

I think you have wholly failed to read an argument in my post and have just projected what you would like to respond to unto it.

I have already said that I think the special status of Israel in anti imperialist discourse is absurd. What I told you now is that the person who makes the emotes doesn't want to, because of the history of the use of burning stars of David as antisemitic imagery, and forcing them would both be difficult and weird, to which you respond by saying that's the standard lib line. Most lib arguments aren't about the feelings of emote makers, that's not a normal conversation.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago

I have already said that I think the special status of Israel in anti imperialist discourse is absurd

You say this, then in the very next post defend the decision to not have the emoji for some "special" reason, giving it a special status

I suppose that accepting that the emote maker has no desire to do so is a special type of argument, but it's not the type of special you want it to be.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago

Ultimately it's the same argument with an added layer to obfuscate it. Why does the emote maker have no desire to?

Were talking in circles here. I've laid out all I care to and you can agree or disagree.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago

Why don't you just admit I'm right?

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