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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml to c/askchapo@hexbear.net

cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3190259

To me they're like mere servants of the State, like Lenin talked about in "2. What is to Replace the Smashed State Machine?" in his writing "The State and Revolution"

Under Capitalism, they are its privileged knights that try to deflect and control, if not defend directly its image as "the only option", who have their incentive in doing so, with their class status stake being in their duty to shepherd the means of production and its resulting benefits

However, they don't own the means of production, as they merely manage it for the landholding, industrialist, and financier capitalists

On the other hand, under Socialism, while its privileges will be probably be done away, the PM class on its own would innovated upon, for their new duty of overseeing, managing, and reporting the collectivized cooperatives and state-owned enterprises..

Until the final stage of Communism arrives, I think they're pretty handy

I say this, because I hear such disgusted sentiment in Hexbear against them

Note: I know a bit about the bazingo techbro culture that the PMC is associated with, please don't criticize them solely on those vibes...

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[-] Yurt_Owl@hexbear.net 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's an interesting point but even then not all PMC choose to join the capitalist class even if they have the means to do so. That's why i overall hate the concept of PMC its hard to pin down a real definition that isn't just pure opinion.

Im my head maybe a correlation between relative wages earned and opposition to organisation can be made ignoring the role but even then that doesn't work for piss poor managers who also oppose organisation.

I think class traitor works just fine as a term for someone in the working class who actively opposes action that benefits the working class.

Wait a minute... I'm a shitposter what am i doing? PMC? More like POO MC amirite?

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I think that when people's needs are met and they simultaneously don't feel overworked they often become grillman

This class, although poorly defined, are usually status quo warriors because they seem to at least understand that the status quo is comfortable to them. Their aim becomes to oppose anything that might disrupt that comfort.

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