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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml to c/askchapo@hexbear.net

cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3190259

To me they're like mere servants of the State, like Lenin talked about in "2. What is to Replace the Smashed State Machine?" in his writing "The State and Revolution"

Under Capitalism, they are its privileged knights that try to deflect and control, if not defend directly its image as "the only option", who have their incentive in doing so, with their class status stake being in their duty to shepherd the means of production and its resulting benefits

However, they don't own the means of production, as they merely manage it for the landholding, industrialist, and financier capitalists

On the other hand, under Socialism, while its privileges will be probably be done away, the PM class on its own would innovated upon, for their new duty of overseeing, managing, and reporting the collectivized cooperatives and state-owned enterprises..

Until the final stage of Communism arrives, I think they're pretty handy

I say this, because I hear such disgusted sentiment in Hexbear against them

Note: I know a bit about the bazingo techbro culture that the PMC is associated with, please don't criticize them solely on those vibes...

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[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 29 points 8 months ago

hokum terminology that's as vibes-based and unhelpful as 'middle class'.

[-] deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 8 months ago

I mean, it is a technical term that describes its role within

That being said, I guess it has to be more specific...

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago

most people do not use it according to its original discription, or their prescriptions are completely out of step with that analysis. here's an article that basically explains the development/discourse on the term (but concludes its still worthwhile in its original form)

but even when you go to the effort of making that original, well-defined argument for PMC, i'm still in favour of the older concepts that don't have to do strained taxonomies of contradictions rather than simply describing them

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