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submitted 6 months ago by g_g@hexbear.net to c/the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net

imagine being the dorks that got put next to hitler lmao

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[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 6 months ago

He didn’t change the world because of something clever or intrinsically special about him. He wasn’t special at all.

No one is. Like the OP said. Great man theory, the magazine.

[-] HexBroke@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago

Me: great man theory is wrong

Also me: but if it was right, Stalin gets first place. 30 years as general secretary of the USSR fuck me dead

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

Synthesis: 1930s' Soviet Union had a ton of great men, but the material conditions lead to one of them, who was the most fitting for the situation, becoming the general secretary.

[-] space_comrade@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Synthesis: 1930s' Soviet Union had a ton of great men, but the material conditions lead to one of them, who was the most fitting for the situation, becoming the general secretary.

I dunno this still smells like idealist thinking to me, it implies the material conditions have some metaphysical power to guide the right people to the right place. Considering how chaotic internal party politics were at the time Lenin could have easily been replaced by Trotsky or some other dildo like that. There could have also been a better person than Stalin for the job we can't really know for sure. Also I'd wager the USSR would maybe still be standing today if Lenin had lived longer than he had and planned the transition of power better.

[-] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

1920s you mean. By the 30s I think the only other old bolshevik leaders still around were Lazar Kaganovich and Kalinin. Maybe Molotov if you count him.

Edit: I tell a lie. Bubov was still in government until 36

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