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In the US, it’s just another payroll tax, not something you can choose.
Right, you can't choose it, but is it another line that says employment insurance? I doubt it says EI Tax.
That's not a tax then, it's buying into something. If you pay part of your benefits on your payroll it also isn't a tax but comes off it.
My payroll slip actually says federal tax on the taxes.
Edit: clarity and Mandatory insurance isn't a tax
If it’s just the name’s that different and it goes to the state, it is a state tax. The arguments for not paying it and not paying for, say, medicare are about the same.
So in Flordia, where you are required by law to have hurricane insurance if you have a mortage, is that a tax?
Edit: Ones for houses, the other is for employment. Both are required by the state. There's even state offered insurance as private are fleeing the state.
Edit: Oh also, do you actually have a separate line for medicaid or medicare on your payroll slips for everyone? Our healthcare in Canada is just part of our regular taxes. There's no line item for it.
Yes, I’d call Hurricane insurance a tax.
Yes, Medicaid is definitely a tax. I was just making an example that having a different name shouldn’t bolster the argument that you shouldn’t pay something by any means.
Weird, my inbox only flagged this as new 6h later even though I've opened the app a lot...
I'm not saying they shouldn't pay it, I'm saying they shouldn't be denied the service they've paid for which is what the law is trying to do.
I disagree that hurricane insurance is a tax, but if we assume that's the case, then this law would in essence be, if your house is destroyed in a hurricane and you make $X we don't actually cover your house anymore.
I don't think that's right, and I disagree its a tax.
Edit: I guess my car insurance is a tax too by your view as it's mandatory and it's even you're required to get a minimum coverage from the province.
Edit: and I guess if it wasn't clear, I support them not paying it if they don't benefit because I disagree its a tax, but I think they should be required to pay it and benefit from it. If you want to tax them more, raise their taxes. The law is bad. They paid for insurance and deserve it.
These laws are quite different as a house (and a car) is worth much more than a job, so your comparison doesn’t make that much sense., not to mention you actually have options with which provider you choose. Unemployment only has a single provider, and that’s the state. That one is definitely a tax, the other ones you may argue to not be.