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submitted 9 months ago by brie@beehaw.org to c/gaming@beehaw.org

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AFTD: Open Hand Foundation Provides AFTD $600K for FTD Research

IGN: YouTuber The Completionist Responds to Allegations of 'Charity Fraud' Against Him and Open Hand

Karl Jobst: The Completionist's Response is the Worst Thing Ever

TL;DR: Things look incredibly bad. The completionist has practically admitted to misleading donors, and it seems like he is expecting the IRS will get involved (IGN). It also seems he's threatening legal action for slander (Jobst).

The allegation that the money was not donated seems to be true (up until the AFTD donation in November of 2023) (IGN, AFTD). The Completionist has admitted he "made statements potentially implying donations were made when they had not yet been" (IGN). Karl basically states that it isn't a potential implication, but a direct claim that he made, and is additionally is alleging that the way The Completionist benefits from IndieLand constitutes charity fraud (Jobst).

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[-] ampersandrew@kbin.social 10 points 9 months ago

Things look incredibly bad.

I don't think that they do. They still had the money. It's now been donated, and Jirard is distancing himself from the charity and not running them attached to IndieLand anymore; the trust is gone, so it would have been difficult to get people to donate anyway. The only smoking gun I could see they had against him was the money still in the account (at the time). The accusations about the golf tournaments had no numbers attached to them, only that "there must be more money there", and it felt very unfounded and as though Jobst just needed another video out for his baked in sponsor slot. From what I can see, Jirard did exactly what he should have to make amends, and now that a bunch of people have all been encouraged en masse to lodge complaints to the IRS, the rest of the truth will come out of that inevitable audit, because I sure didn't feel like I got it from Jobst's follow-up videos. His and OrdinaryGamers are two channels I'm certainly not interested in watching again. If you're going to do something resembling investigative journalism, then act like it; don't preamble your video telling me how I should feel about something before you've presented your facts.

[-] Mindless_Enigma@beehaw.org 6 points 9 months ago

Karl's drama/exposé videos have always had this kind of antagonistic energy to them. It usually doesn't bother me since the subjects, like Billy Mitchell, have brought the absurdity on themselves. Carrying that same energy into serious claims of fraud feels like a poor decision even if it's the style of video you're used to making. I don't think the money would have been donated without these videos so I'm glad they were made, but the presentation was not as effective as it could've been.

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