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Europeans open to Ukraine joining EU, survey shows (www.theguardian.com)

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[–] themurphy@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Honestly, Ukraine has never been a good fit for EU. They would be better off with NATO, because they don't align with Europe on alot of other areas. And let's be honest, they primarily want the protection.

If they want to change that, and be more like Europe, fine. But that's a big move from where they are.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 7 points 2 years ago

I think this view is very Russo-centric. EU helps the Ukrainian middle class by improving the economy and preventing corruption. Look at how much richer Poland is than Ukraine.

[+] rs137@lemmy.world -12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And what’s the difference exactly? As a Czech dating an Ukrainian woman, let me tell you that the difference is that “European” women are spoiled and lazy. My girlfriend is working two jobs (14 to 16 hours a day), she’s facing a lot of discrimination and racism and yet she’s always in a good mood. Everyone is her community is like that.

Maybe you are from a non-Slavic country? To you they might seem different because you don’t understand/know? They are listening to the same music as you, they are watching the same shows on Netflix as you. Their stuff is arguably better than “ours” cough Lions on the jeep cough. Learn the language and you’ll see. For a nation that went through so many tragedies I don’t think it’s fair to look down upon them. Even if they primarily want a protection. So what? Why should you have it and they don’t?

[–] Yamayo@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

let me tell you that the difference is that “European” women are spoiled and lazy.

Uh, OK.

[–] themurphy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I didn't mean the people, and certainly not your girlfriend. I didn't mean the music nor the films.

I meant the corruption and politics allowing it.

And I don't think I look down on anybody. I legitimately suggested NATO as it fits better and would be faster to implement for the safety of the people. To be an EU member takes time Ukraine does not have.