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Motherfuckers calling each other by their online nicknames since wow released in 2004, now complaining about someone asking to be called certain way.
Internet nicknames are way older than that.
But not those motherfuckers.
Yeah I know, but internet used to be more of a niche space, WoW made more mainstream the whole thing.
As a straight dude, I'm not about to call another dude 'miss'. Don't force me into your convention.
As a straight dude, if another dude insisted on seeing a woman's genitals before calling her 'miss' I would punch him in the face.
Cool, then call a woman miss, because that's what trans women fucking are. Women.
And calling trans men dude is still very fine, since they are men. I think you actually could manage this very basic level of human decency.
Ah yes, because acting with basic decency towards a [TYPE OF PERSON] definitely means you must be a little bit [TYPE OF PERSON] too.
I don't hate them and I don't do that with me or against me nonsense. I'm just not gonna play along with their fantasy. There's a lot of things I'm not and wish I were but I don't get the benefit of making everyone around me pretend that's the case so I can keep myself in an illusion.
And I think it’s worth making respect and compassion of others a higher priority then pedantically reminding them about their current or at-birth genitals and/or chromosomes.
I mean, even if you have an irrefutable philosophical/logical argument about how it is WRONG to accept trans-ness, I think I’m still just going to be nice to the people I meet, and treat them how they would like to be treated.
Ok, well I want you to treat me like I'm a god. I've always felt that way since birth and this human shit feels really displacing.
You're not being asked to treat anyone special, you're being ask to treat them like people. If the way you treat women is vastly different than the way you treat men because you see them as merely objects to fuck then you are an asshole.
No, this is asking for special treatment 100%. I treat literally all people with a facade to keep them away. Literally nobody can make me address them in any special way.
There's nothing special about addressing someone as "her", that's just normal every day communication.
Only when it's true.
And how do you determine if it's true?
Someone created a Cis or Trans Quiz with 25 pictures: https://uquiz.com/quiz/ACfqeR
My Results: https://uquiz.com/Result/static/lite/ACfqeR/4866525/scored/68?&s=4adba41d-150b-4d50-9b6f-93817a24ca47
It takes less than 5 minutes, feel free to link your perfect score (Note how only 78 people scored higher than 90%). Otherwise your only options to determine if it's "true" would be insisting on seeing their genitals, making you a sex offender, or to take them at their word.
It's true when it's true and a picture can look like anything. I'm not interested in your game. I value honesty and there's too much actually wrong in the world for me to care about anyone's genital obsession.
So when someone says to you they are a woman, how do you determine if you refer to them with feminine pronouns?
Nobody I work with has enough money to take up a doctor's time with their sex fantasy and everyone else I don't care to talk to.
and we all appreciate your service. Unfortunately you're talking to me right now and you can only take my word that I'm a male.
Isn't it funny how I don't need to refer to your gender for literally any other reason than to affirm your bullshit? I have absolutely zero to do with your gender. Names are fine. Fuck your categories.
Isn't it funny how your opinion on the subject literally doesn't matter at all? You've made it clear that you only ever talk to people you work with, which explains why you're an antisocial incel. If, as you say, you will never actually interact with a potential trans person in your life then your trash opinion literally does not matter to anyone.
You just wanted to let everyone know you're a closed minded bigot, and we heard you the first time.
You clearly don't understand what an incel is. They're trying to get laid. I'm not, and won't.
Right, that's why you being a "straight male" is so important to this discussion that it's the first thing you brought up.
I may be wrong about incel because I don't know if you can call it involuntary when you're choosing to be abhorrent, but at least we agree on antisocial closed minded bigot.
The problem with that is that if always results in discrimination against cis women who don't look feminine enough.
THAT is your problem?
Look. If someone is ugly, people will like them less and there's absolutely nothing that will ever change that. Welcome to simp world.
Yes, you've made it clear you only care to treat women with any amount of respect if you're trying to fuck them.
I'm talking about situations where psychos start yelling at cis women using the bathroom because they've convinced themselves that she's trans.
I don't wanna fuck any women. Also why should I treat any category of person with respect just because of their category? I only care about individual people.
And the lies begin. What would be the relevance of you saying:
If this has nothing to do with sex?
You should treat every person with a basic level respect just because they are a person. Once they reveal themselves to be a misogynistic piece of shit you can stop doing so, but even then I'm not going to misgender you just because you're an asshole.
I'm an antinatalist. Just because you can't immediately make sense of something doesn't means it's contradictory. You don't know what you don't know.
I respect people when they're capable and honest.
And when you don't know what genitals someone was born with how do you address them?
Glad to know you don't respect yourself any more than I do.
Damn, that closet must be damp with all the sweat and cum.