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[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 17 points 11 months ago (4 children)

IMHO (not a parent), children need to learn that the world doesn’t revolve around them. If they’re not hurt, they can wait a minute.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Covered in my own blood dammit.

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 11 months ago

I'm on the phone 🤫

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lol no, when you have kids, the world absolutely does revolve around them to a large extent. That's just life.

[–] rosymind@leminal.space 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but only when they are too little to know better, or to do something themselves. If they are babied into childhood they may turn into adults who still believe the world revolves around them. I have a couple x's like that. Into their late 30's and still can't function without someone else helping them

Lessons need to be learned at the appropriate ages

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

True. But you often do have to care for a kid long into adulthood simply because of the way society works.

And like it or not, you do have to put your kid's feelings and concerns above yours in order to parent them properly.

Those ostensibly spoiled kids who act that way throughout life are the products of abuse, and were either neglected, abused in various ways, or never taught to care for themselves.

The feelings, needs and concerns of kids overrule yours and if you refuse to accept it, *you * need to accept that the world doesn't revolve around you.

Life isn't always fair. That's something you need to deal with, not children.

[–] rosymind@leminal.space 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't have children yet, and it might come to pass that I have none, but I have worked with them. I'm an observer type of person. I like to analyze things. I also come from a household where my own voice wasn't heard. I didn't learn how to manage my emotions, and as a consequence I'm having to continue to do so well into adulthood.

Kids emotions are raw, intense, and untamed. Yes, they should be listened to, yes their needs should be met- but they also need to understand that the world doesn't revolve around them and that sometimes they need to wait.

They need to know that they are loved. They need to know that they are important. But again, they need to know that other people are important too. They need to understand that other people's feelings matter, too. They need to be able to identify when someone else is busy on the phone and come back later to show that cool new drawing they made.

If the parent drops what they are doing each and every time, allows the child to interupt constantly, and leads them to believe that they are the most important person in the room at all times, then what lesson will they take with them into adulthood?

You know those people that start yelling when their starbucks drink is not to their liking? That's one way that those people are made

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You're not listening to what I am saying. Being told to wait a minute isn't telling someone the world doesn't revolve around them. Telling a kid the world doesn't revolve around them is making a moral stance that that kid doesn't actually matter, and that is what adults actually mean when they tell kids such. It has all of jack and shit to do with minor petty shit like making a kid wait when you're on the phone. It's about why you're making them wait and how you truly feel about them.

It's nothing but petty ageist bigotry and I can't be the only one tired of hearing it.

Yes the world absolutely does revolve around children. Literally everything we do is for them to some extent.

[–] rosymind@leminal.space 1 points 11 months ago

My guess is that perhaps you're a bit young and inexperienced with the world. It isn't as black and white or cut and dry as you may think it is.

It certainly doesn't revolve around children.

[–] LuckyBoy@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

If parents are not there for them when they ask, who in this world trully is going to be? You're right the world doesnt revolve around them, but parents should.