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Green Party split from group at centre of trans row
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They mean gender right? Who in this is confusing sex and gender again? Is it the green party or the BBC or both, I literally cannot tell after reading this.
"Gender critical" people chant "sex cannot be changed" like a mantra.
It's not meant to make sense. It's not even a real argument, because it's overly vague and doesn't even attempt to address the arguments of their opponents. It's just a flat reassertion of their ideology. And if you follow gender criticals for long enough, you will see that they do this constantly.
My guess is that the error originates in one of the Green Womens' Group terf people that the article quotes at length. Article authors repeated it in their own text and subeditor didn't pick up on it.
The BBC has had a lot of TERFy journalists (as has The Guardian), so could be they intentionally ran with the line used by this disaffiliated GPW group.
Gender identity cannot be changed, that'd be akin to conversion therapy.
Gender expression can be changed, and it's part of socially transitioning, but trans people do change their sex through hormones and surgeries.
My current understanding is this:
Sex is chromosomes, immutable, unchanged, majority binary with some exceptions (xxy etc).
Gender is expression and roles, which is just social construct stuff, how it's expected genders to look and act, tradition, doesn't really matter, can change as we see fit.
Your post has very much confused me, would you defining sex, gender, gender expression and gender identity for me?
I'm an ally but I need concrete definitions to make arguments against the anti-trans folks.
Okay, I'm not an expert so take this with a grain of salt, but my understanding is:
Gender identity: your "brain sex", determines what gender you are.
Gender expression: social stuff like your clothes, how you talk, and other things related to presentation. Doesn't determine your gender.
Sex: in a social context, sex is more about primary and secondary sex characteristics and less about reproduction and chromosomes. Many secondary sex characteristics change with hormones, and primary ones can be changed via surgery.