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Windows 10 gets three more years of security updates, if you can afford them::Windows 10 gets a version of the program that extended updates for Windows 7.

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[–] Gamoc@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I can't upgrade to Windows 11 (not that I'd want to considering all their enshittification), so they're leaving me with an unsecured OS. I survive on £160 a month so, no, I won't be paying for fucking security updates, instead I'll be switching to Linux and literally never considering using Windows again.

[–] DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

It's also not reasonable to expect updates forever. No matter what, support for software always stops at some point, and 10 years of support is pretty reasonable for consumer products. Not great, but also not terrible.

[–] Bongles@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

Normally sure, but maybe Microsoft shouldn't have tried saying windows 10 was the last windows version, to then release a new version that a lot of people can't even upgrade their current PCs to.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But consider that windows is a paid product, and its competition, linux, is both free and with much much longer support for old hardware, not to mention never having "sequels" in this way. I feel like windows doesn't have much excuse compared to this.

[–] KrummsHairyBalls@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

And Linux doesn't work with a ton of stuff. I have a ton of hardware that only works on Windows, I have a ton of software that only works on Windows with 0 Linux alternatives..

I mean shit, even PAID DaVinci Resolve doesn't have AAC audio support on Linux, while it's in the free version on Windows.

I'm also not sure what you mean by longer support for old hardware? Windows has crazy good support for legacy hardware. I can plug my steering wheel from 1997 into my windows 11 PC and it just works.

Windows literally has code in the kernel specifically to fix bugs with older games.

But ya. Linux is better. That's why my wifi drivers, sound drivers, video drivers, trackpad drivers, don't work, and I have to spend a week trying to fix it.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Windows 11, while you can work around it, specifically requests tpm, which definitively is not from 1999..

Also, windows has its own endless list of driver issues, hardware does not always "just work" on windows, on the other hand, it also often "just works" on linux. It depends, of course, but I never had to install a sketchy driver for my PS3 controller on linux (it's in the kernel), but I had to on windows. Not to mention printers.

A bunch of software is also only or primarily for Linux, though that depends of course on your field and what you need. I've seen plenty of software that I needed that did not have a proper (or as good) windows alternative.

[–] DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, TPM 2.0 is already 4 years old so were not really talking about MS requiring cutting-edge tech when they stop supporting Win10 in two years.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

My computer parts were like 8+ years old when I replaced them. And I can afford to do so, not everyone can.

[–] DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

But getting a 6 year old used laptop by the time its necessary is fortunately pretty cheap. And for consumers there's honestly very few that need to use windows, so there's always Linux distros as an alternative.

I get that it's not a good move for consumers, I'm not disagreeing with that. But it's just also so very far from the catastrophe that so many seem to insist it is. It's honestly just a mild inconvenience, and the coverage it's getting is IMO completely out of proportion to the problem.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 months ago

It's more that windows constantly has all of these little things that build up to something big. For some it's just the straw that broke the camel's back.