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No one rounded up and killed Tibetans as an ethnicity, or Uyghurs (even the fucking US state department concedes this), or North Koreans (unless they mean the American bombings and sanctions, but I bet $10 that's not what they mean), or ethnic groups in the Soviet Union (most historians, even those who vehemently denounce Stalin, agree the famine was not a deliberate genocide, read the preface to the Years of Hunger by Davies and Wheatcroft)

At least they oppose the genocide of Palestinians. I'll take what I can get at this point.

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[–] iie@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They still claim human rights abuses and forced sterilization, which they classify as genocide, but concede there is insufficient evidence of mass killing.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/02/19/china-uighurs-genocide-us-pompeo-blinken/ appears to be paywalled now but this is where I read it

https://2017-2021.state.gov/determination-of-the-secretary-of-state-on-atrocities-in-xinjiang/ report summarized in the previous link

I want to stress that this is still extremely distorted. If you start looking for evidence, you find stuff like this from Adrian Zenz, https://twitter.com/abovetheclouds/status/1404918115423633414, not only factually wrong but mathematically meaningless. This is the most-cited guy on Xinjiang human rights in the west. Search his name on this site and you’ll see other examples of him getting caught like this.

I realize a handful of links is not enough to go on, although you should really take a deep dive through those search results I linked. I’m on my phone so I kept it brief. When I have time I want to make a compilation thread on Xinjiang, the last one focused on Tiananmen.