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What frustrates me the most is poll after poll supports healthcare reform until there's a chance of accomplish it. Then the republican noise machine starts up and the polls shift in the other direction. If people actually and authentically wanted healthcare reform and demanded it then it would happen.
Don't you remember that part in the Bible where there was the person with leprosy who met Jesus but Jesus was out of network and working for a for profit healthcare corporation so it was going to cost $3,000 out of pocket for the initial consult and that wasn't even going to go towards their $5,000 deductible? I think it was in the Gospel of John.
The Book of Kaiser Permanente.
There are always horror stories about poor care in countries with socialized medicine and it sounds really scary, but the numbers don't lie. Countries with socialized healthcare have better overall outcomes for half the cost. Medical care for profit is bad business and bad healthcare.
I say this as a guy who grew up huffing Reagan's farts. It's all lies.
Yes, you chose the correct term. These are made up stories.
Nah man, they're not made up stories, can confirm. Australian. They defund the healthcare till it breaks. That's where we are right now. We had 'conservatives' (not what we call them, but it'll do) destroying the place for the last 10 years odd. Thier M.O. is, defund public infrastructure till it doesn't work, then go 'oh we had to sell it, it was broken, the private sector will fix it' and simultaneously go 'look at how good at money we are, we brought alll this cashola in from nowhere in particular' and then their mates buy up public information for pennies, who then price essential things out of our reach. It's fun times! Some of the last targets they were hitting were unemployment payments, people who worked, while receiving benefits, people who are disabled, hospitals and schools. So our hospitals are nearly entirely broken. But it's been a shit show for a while, I had gallbladder attacks, sending me to the emergency room, once a month or more for two years, I was supposedly on the top of the waiting list for surgery. That was just what the wait for anything like that was like, they wouldn't operate sooner, unless I went into septic shock and was literally moments from dying. Their words.
Bad things can happen under any system. It's not difficult to find these exceptions and makes it sound like that's the core experience. But even the existence of true horror stories aren't an indictment of socialized medicine, because the response to that is, "yeah and our system is even worse than that!"
Let's face it: The real horror is go-fund-me being one of the biggest health providers.
Trust me, for every socialised healthcare system there is a private company paying a politician to make it actively worse for its patients so that they can cash in on a new private system once they drive it into the ground. Everybody is fucked.
The stupider stuff to me is just because there's public Healthcare doesn't mean there can't also be for profit services. Just that they have to compete on something other than simply existing. It's like k-12 school. There's public school, or you can pay for private school if you want to and can afford it.
People dunk on the VA, and it's not good, but you have to compare it to the existing alternative in the US, and honestly it's not really worse than the average for profit where I live (which is rural NY for context). Something like 95% of primary care might as well be like going to Urgent Care, just with more waiting and lower prices. But it's not like you ever see the same person, or a doctor usually. Just whatever Nurse Practitioner happens to be there, and no one reads your chart so you're just explaining from scratch each person each time, even in the same visit.
And I think I've seen more get it moved along at some local mechanics drive up than at ERs. At this point about the only place to go is either shut down facilities or up IMO.