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[-] applebusch@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

Yeah to be honest what strikes me the most about companies like Bethesda is just how little they've improved over the decades. There's nothing stopping them from making major improvements like removing loading screens, adding vehicles finally (I wonder if the ships are really a hat like the train in fallout 3), fixing the buggy ass collisions and physics, or any number of dumb shits they just keep leaving in game after game. It really speaks to the institutional inertia and spaghetti mess their code must be.

[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I would assume those things are just not prioritized by management because they've never been things that have caused sufficient outrage and/or aren't seen as things that can increase sales... You can't exactly use "look we fixed physics" in a marketing video to sell a new game. Maybe you can use "look we have vehicles"... but what's the number of people that will really care? What % will that increase sales?

e.g. maybe someone would care if EA made your need for speed character able to get out of the car and walk around... Do I care? Nah.

(I bothered to look at the Wikipedia page and) they added multiplayer support to Creation Engine for Fallout 76, that was a huge undertaking.

[-] applebusch@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I mean fixing these things can definitely increase sales, but you're right not in the sense that they are directly marketable. The thing that makes games really blow up is word of mouth, people recommending them to their friends, and you get that best by making a game with overall quality. It's basically a given at this point that Bethesda games are buggy messes that get fixed by modders. Every time you have a major bug, game crash, or save corruption it takes you out of the world and forces you to remember you're playing a game that barely works, which makes you like it less. All of this hurts sales, if not today in the future. So yeah, they probably aren't prioritized by management, but management is wrong. They often are.

[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 1 points 11 months ago

Fair assessment, though I'd critique:

Every time you have a major bug, game crash, or save corruption it takes you out of the world and forces you to remember you’re playing a game that barely works, which makes you like it less.

These aren't the improvements you said you wanted ;) Fixing physics, adding vehicles, etc are features/major changes that can increase instability/take a lot more time to QA.

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