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this post was submitted on 17 Jul 2023
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I do not agree, but I understand the point you are making. The fact that many people who migrate is lack of opportunities, and like many people, if they are not getting that in their current job they are going to fmlook for new opportunities in other jobs.
The point of the image is that the only ones getting a better deal are the owners, the migrants are just getting a little better deal but not as much as the people who the owner fired.
Yeha, that's why I said the worst aggressors are the companies, but this doesn't mean that immigrants are free of guilt.
First, they are immigrating illegally, which isn't right. There's a lot of honest immigrants patiently waiting to be accepted, and these guys just say "fuck it" and break all the rules.
Second, they know they'll accept a low paying job as soon as they get their first offer. The money they are getting is a lot of money back home. It isn't a bad deal for them. After a few years they can go back home and be wealthy, even medium-high class. So it's not like they are in a bad deal.
Just because there is a big aggressor, doesn't mean there is a single aggressor.
That is where you are wrong. Not every migrant is illegally in the US. Many have work permits, nss and even back accounts. And yet, owners still find a way to abuse those.
In that scenario, the only aggressor is the business owner then. Legal immigrants should be paid the same as native workers.
I thought the post was talking about illegal immigration.
The image is only saying immigrants not illegal immigrants only.
But yeah, I mean, I am working legally, my last job they didn't want to pay me overtime, so I stop doing it, they they wanted to reduce my hours. I found some other work and I am doing twice the money that I made in the other job.
My opinion is that to see a real change, instead of blaming the illegals, first thing to do is to go after the owners who hire illegals, and I assure you that there won't be illegal immigration