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[-] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 85 points 10 months ago

Area 51 is real. Don't know if there's any aliens there, but I'm betting not.

[-] tjarod11@lemmy.world 56 points 10 months ago

The Roswell Incident was declassified as well. It was a weather balloon with a microphone attachment that was meant to listen to a certain layer of the atmosphere where nukes are loudest. I don't have the link as I'm on mobile.

I don't think the government would deny any extraterrestrial claims by the news during the cold war because it would scare the commies shitless if they thought the United States had alien technology.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

The US government has been caught spreading alien conspiracy theories. They were the ones supplying Paul Bennewitz with his bogus info to muddy the waters on the stealth craft they were working on at the time.

[-] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If I remember the story correctly the balloon was, as you said, to detect nuke detonations. When it crashed the government lied because they didn't want anyone to know what they were up to.

That method of detection wasn't very effective anyway, we figured out much more reliable means of detecting nuclear explosions right on the ground using resonance, but it was pretty obvious the government was lying, so of course peoples imaginations went wild with conspiracies and the ufo thing was born.

It was (and still is) a great thing for the US government, it deflects from what's really going on and keeps the idiots busy chasing bullshit, and the enemies guessing as to what kind of tech they may really have. Toss them a bone once in awhile to keep the frenzy going and you have a reliable means of obfuscation for little to no effort.

[-] TheSanSabaSongbird 1 points 10 months ago

What happened is that a Colonel at the base it was brought to prematurely announced that it was some kind of alien craft, and then 4 hours later they clarified, but the damage was already done.

Of course, that was in '47 and Roswell didn't become a "thing" until '69, more as a tourism gimmick than anything else.

[-] Tamo@programming.dev 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Roswell was actually multiple incidents remembered incorrectly iirc

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7droUsVVRsNC3hCXQvd5ph?si=qRPRLKaaQWywq95fubt63Q

Good pod on the topic

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

Roswell was actually a turn of the millennium American television show

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

Pretty sure they just work on go-fast shit

[-] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 6 points 10 months ago

They used to. They moved that to a different base. 51 is little more than a convenient decoy for lookyloos now.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

This is actually where they make the $20,000 toilet seats.

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah. Groom lake. Outside of Vegas. Not much to see unless you draw attention by trespassing. So I hear. I drove out there once but didn't get all that close. Anyway that facility was the base for the CIA A-12 planes, their version of the SR-71 Blackhawk.

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 10 months ago

SR-71 *blackbird :)

Now I'm remembering that "fastest things in the sky" copypasta lmao

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Damn autocorrect lol

[-] TheSanSabaSongbird 1 points 10 months ago

That's the thing about a lot of these alien conspiracy theories; they're based on a pretty large nugget of truth in the sense that the government does have secret sites and crash retrieval teams and there are some aerial phenomena that remain unexplained. The thing is that they're all focused on enemy technology, not aliens, and as for unexplained aerial phenomena, most are explainable, and the relatively few that aren't are basically a mystery.

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