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submitted 11 months ago by Vincent@kbin.social to c/firefox@lemmy.ml

Firefox users are reporting an 'artificial' load time on YouTube videos. YouTube says it's part of a plan to make people who use adblockers "experience suboptimal viewing, regardless of the browser they are using."

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[-] CowsLookLikeMaps@sh.itjust.works 30 points 11 months ago

A mass migration to a federated YouTube alternative couldn't come sooner.

I keep seeing people throw this idea out there but I have yet to have received a reasonable answer to a simple question: How would content creators get paid on a federated video platform?

[-] MylesRyden@social.vivaldi.net 14 points 11 months ago

@I_Comment_On_EVERYTHING @CowsLookLikeMaps
Patreon?

Yes, content providers make money on YouTube, but considering that Google makes more than then they do as a percentage certainly begs for some other solution.

I have a bit over 60 YouTubers I'm subscribed to on YouTube. Am I supposed to pay $60+ every month to have access to them? The cheapest patreon I've ever seen was for $1 and that wasn't even for full access just a "buy me coffee, thanks" tier.

What about discoverability, how am I supposed to randomly stumble across niche content creators that don't have a huge following?

Not saying it isn't possible I just can't seem to wrap my head around how it would work.

[-] Vincent@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

I think Nebula aims to solve that.

[-] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

The other big question is who's paying for the infrastructure? If payments are done through a third party like Patreon, the host can't take a cut. Serving lemmy text and image content from a home server is one thing. Being a 4k streaming host is an entirely different business. Way more computing load and bandwidth, which means higher hosting costs.

[-] Ferk@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ideally, it would be a P2P protocol where the main seeder is either the content creator directly, or a service paid by the content creator (who is funded by their audience and/or sponsors).

I believe there are many podcasts that work somewhat like that (minus the P2P part, they just simply use RSS). Some hosting services have features to insert ads into the audio podcast being hosted.. so the content creators still can choose to do that if they want, but the advantage is that there's isn't a monopoly for a single hosting provider and you can access the podcasts from many different podcast apps without needing to rely on a specific website and company that decides how you can watch it.

[-] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago

Patreon should offer a donation bank. Donate $10 a month. Then you can add patreons to the bank and the ten gets split equally between them?

[-] naught@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Instances could probably find ways to be ad supported or creators could do 3p sponsorships or ads in videos. Not everyone has to chip in to everything they subscribe to. It's still impossibly hard compared to youtube though.

e: what about opt-in ads (banner or otherwise) for channels you want to support? could be cool

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