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[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 21 points 7 months ago

When comparing today’s bitter politics and the runup in the 1850s to the Civil War, Freeman sees “more echoes than parallels” and cautions against taking the analogy too far.

Emphasis mine. The echoes are definitely concerning, and I'm not qualified to say we're not heading towards a civil war (and there are other signs besides), but I wish journalists wouldn't bury the lede and emphasize the doomerism.

Fuck, man. We need a little good news.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

If the losers try to quit America again, the bitter loss while clutching their idiotic beliefs will be sweet schadenfreude.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 11 points 7 months ago

They were banking on having slave labor, if they had won. The modern red states, likewise, do not have the wealth/resources required to sustain themselves apart from the blue states. It would be economic devastation.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

The red states can't peel away. Imagine red Illinois leaving and trying to drag Chicagoland along.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

Texas might be the only one that could survive separation, but it'd be a stretch at best. Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, etc would be up shit creek.

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

Well that's kind of what I meant by they could be the one to survive of the others. They have natural resources, shipping ports already operating on the Gulf, and a decent localized economy. Sure they'd run themselves into the ground with policy and nonsense, but they're positioned much better than other southern states, and that's all I'm saying; if they pulled their heads out of their asses, they'd have a better fighting chance than their neighbors.

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

All good man. It's a trip to even consider it a possibility, yet here we are.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Can we please please just let them leave this time

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