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Things that are so obvious and ingrained that no one even thinks about them.

Here’s a few:

All US americans can go to Mexico EASILY. You’re supposed to have a passport but you don’t even need one (for car/foot crossing). Versus, it’s really hard for Mexicans, who aren’t wealthy, to secure a VISA to enter the US. I’m sure there are corollaries in other geo-regions.

Another one is wealthy countries having access to vaccines far ahead of “poor” countries.

In US, we might pay lip service to equal child-hood education but most of the funding pulls from local taxes so some kids might receive ~$10000 in spending while another receives $2000. I’m not looking it up at the moment, but I’m SURE there are strong racial stratas.

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[–] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Safety and process rigor when people talk about heavy industry. Shit like "300 people fall in a mineshaft every day in China it's normal" and "it's india they don't care about safety there" as some indictment of the contempt for safety because of culture or something.

No it's entirely based on your preconceived notions of these people. Truth is every plant ever is a massive safety concern, just that some are more amenable to cheap labour with lapses in safety, while others have shittons of money to throw to prevent all the disasters at the last moment. Seriously, it's surprising just how much of our infrastructure is barely scraping by without incident

[–] Ecoleo@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As someone who works in a "safety" focused industry, I hear stuff like this all the time. It's not entirely untrue that yes, working conditions in underdeveloped countries can be worse than in the West, but no one stops to examine why, it always comes across as calipers shit. Sometimes plainly so.

[–] gaycomputeruser@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's so nice to hear someone agree that this shit is racist. I bring it up and it's constantly defended as "just a fact".

Almost started to believe it wasn't racist :(

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anytime you see shit like that just link them an article about Bhopal.

Bunch of westerners tried to set a high score for ignoring safety regulations at the constant protest of the local workers which, predictably, ended with chemical warfare against a population center "which the westerners then refused to alert the locals to"

I did not know about this incident. What the fuck.