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True. Gypsy itself is a slur too, right? Sorry, idk much and European bigotry aside from the meme where Europeans scold us for being a racist country, then turn around and say they want to exterminate the Roma.
Yeah I think so. We have a lot of great threads on Roma culture in Hexbear, I'd recommend checking them out because their culture is really cool. I especially love Romani architecture.
Seriously, check out these sick palaces!
Those look rad. Like someone was building a traditional European house and half way up got bored and decided to finish it as a Chinese pagoda.
Those are often used in Eastern Europe as racist proof of "Look, they're not actually poor and oppressed! They're rich! And they steal from us! So it's okay to hate them."
Wow those buildings are fire. I want to add them to C&C now. I am in love with the roof
Thank you !
Holy shit it's like the majestic sprawl of a plantation house with none of the vile malevolence of southern settler whites
Yeah, but IIRC it's also a situation like indian/native american where sometimes people prefer one term or the other. Like anything else I suppose, never lead with it but if someone corrects you just roll with it.
I learned sorta recently that while some people prefer American Indian there are a ton of people who consider Indian to be something like the soft n word, as in some Native Americans might say it a lot but others shouldnt say it, so people should be careful about not stepping on that.
The groups I'm in avoid the entire issue by saying indigenous. Indigenous peoples were of many nations that were crushed in the genocide of manifest destiny and the not even given American citizenship until the 1920s. Even then, they've been repeadly fucked by the government who has so rarely honored any part of the multitude of treaties we have with the various indigenous nations.
I like the Canadian term of "first Americans". It's not racialized and seems more respectful (not that Canada is at so respectful to them). But it does still highlight the fact that they were so well erased from American history that a blanket term is used for the multitude if ethnicities and nations that were here first.
First Nations is acceptable but First Americans still uses a settler colonial name to describe people of indigenous nations. (America was named after an Italian Explorer, not exactly anything indigenous about that word).
Thanks for the info, I'll change my vocab accordingly.
You're welcome, comrade.
Oh shit, good to know.
And they always try to defend this position by saying "But it's different with gypsies- they really do live up to their stereotypes!" while simultaneously faking for support for BLM from abroad.
There are a few acceptable exceptions like "gypsy jazz" but other than those it should have considered a slur.