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[-] macattack@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fuck a corporations but let's not act like piracy is the modern version of Robin Hood or righting a huge injustice

[-] hyperhopper@lemmy.ml 77 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean yeah it's selfish, but it is definitely righting a huge injustice:

There is literally no customer centric way to watch these shows, or most modern media at all. Where can I literally buy shows that I can then resell. Where can I get a subscription service that's focused on giving me the best content possible and not trying to squeeze value out of me by influencing what I watch or selling my metrics or up selling me to a bigger plan after killing the previous plan or any number of other dark practices. Where can I buy DRM free offline files of these shows so I can watch them on an airplane on my own hardware without Internet?

It's fucked up that there is literally no way for people to buy their entertainment and not be fucked over more for trying to do it the legal way and spending money. And piracy needs to exist as a breaking point to stop these companies from getting even worse.

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

If you are a gullible consumer whose devices are always connected to the internet, you don't notice you're getting a worse service. Unfortunately, way too many people are falling for this.

Luckily, at least PC gamers are largely outspoken about DRM and there are pretty popular platforms that cater to them. But console games and media (other than some e-books)? No end of DRM in sight.

[-] GigglyBobble@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

at least PC gamers are largely outspoken about DRM and there are pretty popular platforms that cater to them

I fear the day that's no longer the case. Feels like gaming is becoming more "proprietary platform first" with every year.

[-] Radicaldog@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The Steam Deck has helped bring it to light. I loved the Hitman games, for example, but I won't buy the studio's 007 game if that has the same always-online-singleplayer shite.

[-] rambaroo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Steam is full of DRM and people still worship Valve. If people actually gave a shit about DRM, they wouldn't accept that bs. They would force publishers to release DRM-free games on GOG.

[-] Sentau@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

The good that steam does for linux currently outweighs the DRM issue present in steam. It why they are catching less heat than others for it.

[-] lemming741@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I don't use Steam, but I think the sentiment was that Steam's DRM is less anti-consumer.

[-] rambaroo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It is but they also allow crap like Denuvo on there. But I always buy on GOG if I can. Having access to my own copy of a game wins out every time.

[-] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hence why the people on the internet needs to reject people coming here to profit.

There's no middle ground in trying to keep the internet good and having it be a platform to hock stuff.

We should go back to the roots. Promote collaboration and be hostile to those people trying to manufacture scarcity online

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

I'm not against platforms, if they actually compete on features and not content.

This somewhat works for music. Spotify, Apple Music, Deezer, YT music all have pretty much the same catalog.

[-] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why are you OK with platforms?

Giving that all of them have shown you that the end state is to reduce the features and quality of content while making you pay more and more for this stuff.

We had the perfect opportunity. We had a new thing to shape and mold for future generations. Instead We let the people in who ruined every other thing we enjoyed. What I can't understand is how people thought they could let them in and also think it would somehow be different.

The right move is to do everything possible to make the internet anti profitable. The minute anyone. Tries we should copy and share it to infinity. Crack all the software. Treat everything the way NFTs were treated. Move the needle back to what we started with a space for hobbyist and enthusiast to create and share information without the endless pursuit of profit enshitifying every space we enjoy

[-] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I get the spirit of that, but actual creators (not executives and investors) still need money. We can't fully rid the internet of monetizable platforms without harming them.

[-] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For sure. We all need money. But I'm not willing to accept all the stuff that comes with it. Which is why I believe there isn't a middle ground. I think what the internet could be and evolve into is much greater than some creator making money by exploiting its spaces.

But also, they can make money in what I'm proposing. What I'm saying is it shouldn't be a place where that is the creators main motivation for being here.

These creators end up with the same behaviors as any Spotify, twitter, Facebook executive. There are inherent barriers with modern online creators that work against the good internet we all want. Its insidious and not as evident as it is with the bigger players. But they are all the same.

[-] Nonononoki@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I've been buying movies and series on Bluray, which I can rip and resell. Not every show has a physical release, but the most popular do and you do not have to watch every show there is.

[-] hyperhopper@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

It's not about percentages or watching everything. It's about I want to watch what I want to watch, and usually that's the opposite of the popular stuff.

Also let's be real if we have to resort to going out physically to buy plastic disks that I'll just immediately throw away after ripping, something is still drastically wrong.

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