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[-] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

For what it's worth, there's still no evidence that Chinese tanks actually killed anyone on 6/4. No journalists on the ground found any indication of a mass casualty event on Tiananmen Square, which directly contradicts the claims made by protestors that there was. The same cannot be said for Soviet tanks in Hungary or Israeli tanks in Gaza, where civilian causalities are rather well-documented.

[-] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What's saddest about this is that it took me literally 3 minutes to find images of tanks in Tiananmen running over student barricades, and blood streaks left on the ground afterwards, and bodies on the ground, but you don't actually care at all, you'll just cover your ears and push your narrative. You're no better than people downplaying what Israel and America do, but you are so wrapped up in the righteousness of your ML rhetoric that you'll just deny it and make up excuses for your side doing the same stuff.

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

took me literally 3 minutes to find images of tanks in Tiananmen running over student barricades, and blood streaks left on the ground afterwards

I'm not as fast browsing through the 2141 images you've linked, most of them of protesters, some burned down tanks, and someone on a bike dressed as a tank. Could you point to the exact images you're referring to?

[-] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Have you seen the blood streaks that tank tracks create? You can look at some of the videos in Gaza if you want to.

Try again, maybe this time with actual evidence instead of unfounded conjecture.

Edit: To clarify, I don't think anybody is denying that people were hurt and killed on 6/4. Let's make that clear. If anything, the Tank Man video shows that tank drivers were under orders to avoid civilian casualties.

[-] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thank you for demonstrating my point.

It's very funny to me that you keep bringing up Gaza like it's some counterpoint to what I'm saying, when all you're doing is pointing out another bloodthirsty regime's crimes. Do you think that Israel's government being evil is somehow a rebuttal to China's government being evil?

[-] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

You haven't provided any actual evidence.

Is your point that your opinion is built on vibes?

[-] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah, no evidence of anything, just images of the massacre. But those could really depict anything!

lmao

[-] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

You're claiming there's a blood smear from a tank running over a body.

Have you seen a tank before? Do you think a tank is just a single block of metal?

[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

No journalists on the ground found any indication of a mass casualty event on Tiananmen Square

ON Tiananmen Square. This is fascist-level wordplay. The same journalists found a massacre all around Tiananmen Square in the rest of Beijing.

no evidence that Chinese tanks actually killed anyone on 6/4

This is just a straight up lie. Lots of people were killed in Beijing. Just possibly not any within the tiny physical confines of Tiananmen Square itself.

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