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I should be able to find the Hamas charter and then comb through it eventually.
Some things to consider is that there are Christians in Gaza and they "even" have churches.
I think most people, some in good faith and some in bad faith, think that being non-secular means being intolerant. But secularism only means there is no promoted religion, there's the separation of church and state. Hamas has been clear that they they want a multireligious state of Palestine where Jews and Christians will be welcomed.
Indonesia is not secular for example and while as a tourist you should follow the laws (as in all countries), it's also a huge tourist spot where millions of Europeans and Americans go every year without any issues.
On Reddit, the bad faith Zionists (when I posted my essay) said that Hamas does not want a multiplural republic because they are not secular. But the two are not opposites, and in fact in history Islam was the most progressive of the three Abrahamic religions when it came to accepting the other two.
When has Hamas said they want to welcome Jewish populations? I thought their charter was pretty vocal about not accepting Judaism: Israel, Judaism and Jews challenge Islam and the Moslem people. "May the cowards never sleep."
If Hamas is tolerant of Judaism, why are there no Jewish families in Gaza? Honest question, I'm not an expert on the situation, just trying to make sense of the facts.
I didn't read your link, but in either case that is the old charter, when Hamas was a fledgling group without popular backing or input from the masses.
Latest charter was released in 2017.
You've opened my third eye.
Glad to hear.
In either case, I think the correct position as a communist is to follow what the comrades in Palestine say. If the PFLP/DFLP/PFLP-GC support what the Qassam Brigades are doing, then I will repeat their position as long as they keep it. To liberal westerners, I will never condemn Hamas or the communist parties in Palestine.
Yes, absolutely.
maybe because gaza is an open air prison that no one would move to willingly?
Please. You and I both know that's a lie. Don't take me for an idiot in your first interaction with me.
You don't deserve a response, but maybe this will educate other people.
Maybe get up to date lmao. Bro is citing something from 1988 as if the world hasn't changed. Look at their 2017 charter instead.
Gaza was started as a refugee camp for Palestinians after the Nakba in 1948. Eventually they built a city there to try and get some semblance of normal life back. You're not gonna bait me into saying there were Zionists living in Gaza until 2005 when Hamas drove the IOF out lmao. Too young, too naive.
Do I sound like an expert? I'm genuinely trying to understand. I haven't kept up on the most recent charter, that was useful information, thank you.
Haven't people been living in Gaza for centuries? Maybe it was called something else before. Did the Jewish families leave in 1948?
I didn't agree with their initial hostility to you, but this sentence genuinely sounds like sealioning.
You may educate yourself about Palestine. In 1948 Palestinians were ethnically cleansed, and Jewish families already living in Palestine were forced to either go with them if they supported their Arab compatriots, or stay and live in the stolen lands. Migration of mostly white mostly affluent people was fostered to "israel" by the west to cement this injustice.
Gaza and West Bank are similar to reservations in NA, although much more violent (in the sense of the state's violence). No one would willingly subject themselves to living there unless they had some connection to the land (Palestinians) and hoped to return to a vibrant and free Palestine.
I mean your attempt at concern trolling is pretty blatant. You don't know much but you know Zionist propaganda, how does that happen!