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There is no Israeli population endemic to Palestinian territories that Palestinians are repressing. There is no polarity in Palestinian society between favoring Israel and favoring other Arab countries. There are no Palestinians who speak Hebrew as a first language, or vote for pro-Israel parties, or have several generations of relatives who are full Israeli citizens.
The situation in Ukraine has all of these. It has a closely overlapping history with Russia that goes back hundreds of years, resulting in many people in Ukraine who have considered themselves more Russian than Ukrainian, who have most of their families on the Russian side of the border, who vote for regional or devolution parties, who speak Russian as a first language.
As we like to say, history didn't begin in 2022. It includes 2013-14, 1991, 1954, and 1922.
The invasion of Ukraine and the occupation of Palestine are not comparable except for in the vaguest, most remote, and least significant of terms. If you want an analog for Palestine, look at Artsakh.
Ukraine has a right to defend Ukrainians against aggression from Russia, but it does not have the right to take away its ethnically Russian citizens' rights to self-determination. If you use an argument like "internationally-recognized border", not only are you decontextualizing and prioritizing a coincidental line in the dirt over social trends, you are denying about 9 million people one of the most basic of political rights.