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What happens when people die with metal in or on them?
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My grandfather died with a bullet in his foot that had been there for about 40 years. He was cremated and there was nothing left of the bullet.
In cremation, the metal is picked up either by hand or magnets and recycled. This is because the bones need to be grinded into "ashes" and they can't do that with metal in it.
Lead melts at such a low temperature that it will vaporize long before the body is reduced to ash.
I didn't believe you. So I looked it up. I had no idea how hot cremation was. What a waste of energy.
I learned this listening to true crime podcasts. Killers often try to burn bodies but it doesn't work because you need an actual furnace to reduce a body down to ash.
There's an episode of Nathan For You where he tries to test if a pizza oven will cremate a body but he gave up after a few hours lol
It can be seen that way. Neil deGrasse Tyson agrees with you. OTOH, itβs a way to conserve cemetery space and reduce the environmental impact of graveyards.
Sure, but cremation isn't the only other alternative.
Blast my body out into the ocean and let the fish eat me
Or, I like the idea of becoming a tree, where they put you in a bag beneath a tree and plant it so the roots will absorb.. whatever is left that they possibly can, I think that's the coolest (imo) way to go and would like to somehow become a tree.. don't want to be reincarnated as an animal, nature is brutal.
Cat maybe...
*... I think thatβs the coolest (imo) way to go and would like to somehow become a treeβ¦ "
trees. are. cool.( literally a and metaphorically.). Having your posymoryem body, turned into a tree, is a relly cool option, in my opinion. Good thing is that a it's pretty widely avalable and doable too, in many places. ππ± π³ π³π²π³π²π²π±
Heres some resources that might be helpful with planning for that tree, aka green or natural, burial, ahead of time (and ensuring that thise wishes are carried out later) , if you haven't allready: https://www.orderofthegooddeath.com/resources/green-burial/ and https://www.greenburialcouncil.org/interactive-maps.html
and to metiΓ³n green burials in another jurisdiction, , http://www.naturaldeath.org.uk/index.php?page=find-a-natural-burial-site
Hopefully some of that may be helpful, or intresting. green. burials. subject.
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Thanks for sharing a branch from your knowledge tree!
That was a (bad) pun, tr-hee hee!
But really, I can't wait to become a tree so I can throw apples at tin people.
An animal does not know pain until it dies since most injuries are fatal without societal support. Humans know the pain of dying and prolong it. Which is more brutal?
My pain isn't the knowledge of death, it's the experience of life and I feel like sleeping outdoors, having to kill to eat etc. Wouldn't be as pleasant of an experience as say eating a bowl of chili and watching a movie before crawling into a comfy bed
Also, when I step on my cat's foot it meows like it hurts, not sure what you're saying tbh not being snarky just confused what kind of pain do animals not experience? Depression, trauma etc?
Most injuries in the wild will lead to death quickly. Any kind of broken limb means no hunting and makes for easier prey. So not the most direct point initially, but the point was that the pain typically doesn't last long before starvation or death by a predator. So it doesn't hurt long before death comes. We drag it out as a society with medical support, familiar connections with people, and sharing news of atrocities at no benefit to us. I'm not saying one is better, I just feel one has a much shorter term of pain
I get where you're coming from but still beg to differ. Sure, the suffering of a broken leg may end sooner for an animal because death but what about the life without comfort that proceeded that energy? The savage wild where everything seems to want to murder you? Going without shelter, food etc? Meanwhile even in major poverty humans tend to have some form of shelter, some food, some support, friends, maybe benefits from the government etc.
Even people in prison have it better than animals and I'm not sure how dying faster = better life? Sure, it sucks (for some) that life is drawn out while others (especially the rich) live long happy lives enjoying every minute of it?
Not saying I don't understand where you're coming from just seems oversimplified to say they have it easier because they die faster
That's what we thought, but when we asked to keep the bullet we were told it was reduced to ash with everything else.