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this post was submitted on 13 Jul 2023
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Racist pieces of shit have already stolen swastikas (meh), viking stuff, white polo shirts, red hats, and the OK hand gesture among many other things that we can no longer in good conscience use. Stop letting these assholes have our words, symbols and clothing items. Take them back, make them our own again.
No one is seriously mistaking the PC Master Race joke with an honest attempt to genocide our way to a "pure race" or some evil shit. Suggesting that the name be changed is cutting the nose off of a community solely in order to spite its face, and doesn't 'protect' anyone.
I would like to concur, namely because we know the exact context and exact intent of the actual, exact place the popularization of the term stemmed from: Yatzhee from Zero Punctuation. And the author did not in any way whatsoever expected it to be taken seriously, or with any derogatory connotation for those within or without (in thay the introductory joke was highlighting a better positioning of PC on a matter while also lampshading the PC's community fragile ego).
To change the name would be to say none of the context matters. It would be to willfully ignore the way it was made and the way it was used. No, that doesn't matter, "only that other meaning, and interpretation matters".
And you know what.
No it doesn't.
Nazis don't matter. Nazis should have zero cultural influence. Zero tokenism.
Let's treat them the way they deserve to be treated. They don't matter, and they have no say and no power. Fuck off, we're keeping it. It's our now. You get NOTHING.
Exactly. To add, what do people expect that it would be "changed" to? If you drop "master" and "race", all you have left is "PC"... and there are already enough PC gaming communities across the various Lemmy instances.
In "changing" it, the community would simply no longer exist. Those who are of the opinion that the community should no longer exist should probably just move along.
What about PCElitism? That would summarise the community quite well
I think if you're taking it that seriously, you're not in on the joke.
I'm not taking it that seriously, and that's why I don't think the name matters that much. Other people mentioned that the whole "race" part of the name could be an issue in some environments or contexts.
What is PCMR core concept, after all? That PC gaming is better than consoles. That's mostly it, and if we can find a name that summarises that without the race part, I don't see the issue.
As always, happy to disagree.
Yeah I understand what you're saying, but by dumbing / watering it down you would then be stating, unironically, what the joke is making fun of. In my mind, the "PC Master Race" ethos both states that yes, "PC is best", but also makes fun of ourselves explicitly so that we don't take it too seriously.
I see, indeed the humorous part should be preserved. As I'm a bit lazy, I asked ChatGPT for suggestions with "Glorious" in it, here are its answers:
Glorious Gaming Guild would be G³, and kind of have the same vibe as PCMR, what do you think?
G3 does sound pretty cool. ChatGPT is definitely better at coming up with new names than I. Since I'm an oldie now, I remember leet speak was super popular when I was a kid growing up with the internet.
Not sure how PC L33T Gamers would be received these days with all these young ragamuffins and their tik toks.
Insert Grampa Simpson "I used to be with it"
It’s a joke they are even considering it, imo
Just ignore the trolls and their fucked up world view
They haven't stolen shit, they don't have the influence to steal. They have been given stuff so others can cry "Nazi"
I guess it would be better to say that we've allowed these things to be stolen. The shitheads definitely used these words & symbols to represent themselves, and then we as a society allowed them to be appropriated by and attributed solely to that group.