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I know it is not your question but… Everyone says pockets for women’s fashion but that is not the most important. At least here in the US the most important is having proper sizes on clothes.
For the most part men’s clothes let you pick things right. You know your waist and inseam for pants, and often have a proper size for shirts and collars.
Women’s fashion often has no size other than the ambiguous s/m/l/xl indicator and teen/woman’s/plus often use the same tag to indicate wildly different sizes. On top of that, when close use a measurement it is not grounded in reality, so a 14 at one shop may be a 16 at another, and neither are a direct measure of your waist. Finally women’s pants only come in 3 lengths (petite, tall, or not specified) and it is difficult to find most combinations.
The best thing we could do for fashion in any sex is to standardize sizes globally and make them all based on a tape measure measurement. That way you could buy 32x30 pants online knowing they will fit, no matter the brand.
As a man I can assure you we have the same problem. I have garments with a 30" waist that fit the same as a 34" waist. And I have pants with a 29" inseam that go past my feet and 32" inseam that don't.
Exactly. Even sizes that represent an actual physical measurement after pretty much made up numbers.
I have 4 or 5 Levi's 501s. All the exact same size, but the fit differs wildly. Two of them I bought at the same time, just in different colors and they're like two different models.
Sweaters are just as bad. I'm a taller guy (1,90m), and it's almost impossible to find a sweater (or any other upper body garment for that matter) that has proper torso length, sleeve length and width at all relevant places. If I find a sweater that's long enough in all dimensions and doesn't feel like a straight jacket around the chest, it's so wide around the stomach, that I could easily hide a watermelon.
It's like the fashion industry assumes, that humans can't be tall and not fat.
Honestly, yeah, size standardization in some form would help so, so much. It's such a pain trying to figure out whether something will fit, even when it says it's the same size as another garment, like you say, 14 at one shop or even in one brand and 16 in another.
Both genders have the same problem. Women get underwear in exact sizing, along with tops that usually are exact. Men get exact sizing in pants and button up shirts. Women do have the same problem with sizing of pants and dresses, but women also have a vastly larger selection. Go look at how many stores sell only to women. Then go look at the stores that sell to both but then have a women’s section that is 5-10x the size of the men’s section.
The only issue is that different cuts and styles can affect those objectively correct measurements. When you ask a guy what size jeans they wear, they most often will also remark what brand they prefer. It's not really that they actually prefer it, but mostly that fits better than maybe another brand in the same size.