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[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

First, you aren't wrong and I want to complement you on you seeing the human lives here. It is important!

To give a zizek-fuck reply, the only way I can grieve and denounce the violence is by pointedly withholding that grief precisely because that grief is weaponized by Israel to commit more atrocities. This removes the shield Israel uses and exposes them to their own horror.

To put it another way, I will also withhold support for an abuser because an abuser will use that as a means of defending and continuing their actions. Keeping that support from them, however objectively legitimate that support is, forces them to confront their own actions.

[–] iie@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

withholding that grief precisely because that grief is weaponized by Israel to commit more atrocities

I think this is where we're all at tbh.

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think my solution is to ensure that the culpability isn't misattributed, which is why I emphasized that the blame for their deaths lies with Israel.

[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

An honest-to-goodness Truth and Reconciliation would make great strides for proper attribution.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's a long way off, but I would like to live to see the day.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He I justed posted a Big Joel twitter video where he says exactly that about the grief thing!

[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just watched it. He says it much better than I did!

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

He's good with words.