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I have done extensive research on the history of China, and there is absolutely nothing redeeming about their government. This is not a case of 'USA Bad, maybe China good and we only think it's bad because of western propaganda?', it's a case of both sides committing terrible atrocities, whether to their own people or people in other countries.
Just because we shouldn't believe western propaganda doesn't mean we should believe Chinese or Russian or North Korean propaganda. China is an authoritarian regime with extreme suppression of personal freedoms and expression, Russia is a mafia state of oligarchic psychopaths creating a depressing hellscape of corruption and societal decay, and North Korea is a government of extremely wealthy and frankly insane elites running the most animal-farm system of oppression possible.
All of the media that paints the Chinese government in a favorable light is generally constructed by the Chinese government itself.
If China was so great, the clamping of freedoms and deportation of journalists to the mainland from Hong Kong would not have happened. They essentially have a 1984 thought police, there's no fucking way that side is somehow 'good guy' in all this.
Also just...Bro, the Tiananmenn Square aftermath pictures should be more than enough to write them off. They literally erased that day from their history books, and those who remember it are scared shitless to even talk about it.
What's the point of having all this freedom and having such a big problem with homelessness? Are people addicted to opioids free? How about Skidrow, slab city? How about ICE? How about Hiroshima? How about Vietnam? How about the freedom to be a fucking n*zi? USA is a sick country that makes global politics based on military threats and sanctions. China has been a much better ally and commercial partner to my country in the last 30 years than USA in almost a century. One of the many examples: during the 50s our then president made deals with American car brands so they would make cars and sell it here, even with many tax benefits and government funds they imposed a bullshit deal clause that made our government promise not to invest railroads for decades. We suffer the consequences of this shitty deal to this day, our country is almost as big as USA and almost all of our goods are transported by trucks in very expensive to maintain roads. My country has one of the highest numbers of road accidents and a serious drug problem with truck drivers who need to drive long ours. Also, as I said before and I'll say it again: USA supported ALL fascist military dictatorships in south America. Taking all that in consideration there is very clear worse for me, and it's not China.
First, China has 5 times as many homeless people as the US (it's higher per-capita in the US, but the total amount is much less, and I'm not saying the US doesn't have a homeless problem, it does, but so does China).
Second, the idea that it is preferable to give up all freedoms of speech, political thought, activism, etc in exchange for housing is truly dystopian, neither of those options are good.
The US opioid crisis is a combination of many factors, partially due to big pharma getting millions hooked on supposedly 'non-addictive' opioids, as well it being wildly profitable to smuggle fentanyl into the country, a complete failure to respond adequately to the issue on almost every front, and it doesn't help that we're bordering a country that is virtually controlled by drug cartels, to the great suffering of their people as well.
Are drug addicts free? They're certainly beholden to their addiction, but at least it's possible to avoid drugs, where as the rest of the population is still far more politically free than ALL citizens of China.
Are the Uyghurs free in China? Are the underclass of workers forced to work like slaves to the point of some companies needing to put up suicide nets around their building free? Were the Tianenmen Square protestors turned to mush by tanks and washed down the drains free?
You know what? I'm actually sure that's true. But just because they've been economically beneficial to your country doesn't mean they aren't morally fucked themselves.
Yes! The US did completely fuck any chance of South America from thriving. the US government really IS an evil force on many parts of the world, but please do not make a black & white decision that China isn't that bad either, they're a good trading partner, many countries have created deep economic ties with them, including the US, but if they could take the US's place and swing their dick around politically, they absolutely would.
If you do nothing else, please, just watch the Tiananmen Square video I linked.
Taking the mask off. What's the point of freedom? Fuck off fascist cunt
No, you fucking dishonest piece of shit. I was referring to the fact that freedom in USA is a lie. Are the homeless free? Are opioid addicts free? Are immigrants and people of color really free in USA? Doesn't USA has like the biggest imprisoned population of the world? It all sound very condraticting. The only really free people are people with money, because their system feed on misery and dispair.
Trying to explain freedom to you would be like trying to explain a cell phone to someone living in 1100 AD. You just can't grasp the concept.
And I say that as an immigrant. The US is a country built on immigrants. Learn your history. Maybe it's from 1100 as well