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[–] Damage@feddit.it 49 points 6 days ago (9 children)

So when is the free market gonna correct this?

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 64 points 6 days ago

Turns out the invisible hand of the market isn't so much a hand as a single outstretched middle finger.

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 34 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Where's this free market you speak of? All I see is corruption and corporate welfare.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

RAM isn't a free market; it's a cartel.

[–] TahVann@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago

~2-3 years when the new fabs come online, assuming we're not still spamming new DCs. If we keep spamming new DCs for the next 3 years, then longer.

[–] gashead76@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

When the AI black hole inverts.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago

Eric Andre as "The Free Market" shoots consumer RAM production; "Why would Samsung do this?"

Never, you know how this games goes.

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

When the AI bubble bursts, or the various electronics suppliers and their suppliers get more factories/capacity online in 2028

[–] aksdb@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is text book market mechanics. Demand rises and so do the prices. As a consequence the demand is somewhat dampened and therefore the market can slowly (!) heal. Due to the shit ton of money that is and can be made, new actors are incentivized to enter the market and existing actors are incentivized to increase their capacity (so no one else jumps in and grabs parts of it).

Now the question is: is it a good sign if such a big number of buyers are willing to throw such an excessive amount of money at you? Probably not, so you might bet on this not playing out in the long run. And the following crash will be hard, because then all the components from the closed data centers would hit the market at the same time with all your backorders going poof.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

There still is not a path for data center components to be used in your gaming rig. They are not compatible and you can't really adapt something like RAM I would wager. You'd have to tear off the chips and make new boards.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If a crash dumps hardware on the market, I bet someone will find a way to make use of it. But I don't think it will devalue, local models work and are useful, so if most datacenters closed tomorrow, I bet they'd be able to sell that hardware at decent prices to all sorts of companies.

[–] bilb@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think if that happens, much stock will be intentionally destroyed before anything like that can happen.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

What motivation do people in the DC and AI sector have to fuck with consumer prices? It's not like NVidia still owns that silicon or something.

[–] boonhet@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's also HBM not DDR or even GDDR in those GPUs. Good luck finding a consumer board that takes those.

The used GPGPU (is that still a term?) server market will have a metric fucktonne of supply I suspect.

Nvidia is already bracing for this. They did a bunch of stock buyback instead of investing that money in anything that could lead to more future sales. 150 billion dollars I believe.