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[–] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

as a pro-AI, anti-cloud nerd? All of these problems disappear when we address the real problem of Capitalism.

there are abandoned tech certs for building datacenters that produce 110% of their own electricity. these are distinct from the data mines these useless nerds want to build.

without capital, the surveillance state dies.

intellectual property is a capitalist myth invented to hold us back and induce rents, and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.

oh no, you fired me from a job I'd rather not have to do and I still get to survive because we slew capitalism? ahhh, how will I cope with the blow to my identity?

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

there are abandoned tech certs for building datacenters that produce 110% of their own electricity.

Do you have any sources for this I could read?

[–] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

search for CompTIA "GreenIT" and you may find something.

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The CompTIA Green IT certification ensures knowledge and skills necessary to implement environmentally sound techniques within an organization's IT infrastructure. The certification enhances existing IT credentials to incorporate emerging technologies that shape the global green IT industry.

As far as I can tell, this is just a (defunct) set of standards and practices for companies to follow if they want to be environmentally friendly. It doesn't speak at all to the engineering and economic problem of how to build megawatt-scale data centers that produce more energy than they consume.

[–] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

yes. but even that is being ignored for cheap, fast construction of these monstrous-scale things.

[–] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Can wildlife live in the datacenters? Do forests grow on their roofs? The problem is human overshoot.

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

No, no and no. The two first do not support the third. Environmental demand is not independent of the mode of production.

[–] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I do not see why information about my labour and its products is useful for anything. I am at least not afflicting the internet with latent ecofascism in my comments. That would surely be a waste of energy and natural resources you supposedly care so much about...

[–] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 days ago

Lol. There's not gonna be any humans if we kill everything else, my friend.