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[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Disclaimer: I haven't voted for a bolsonaro and never will

Lula is no saint and has been involved in one of the biggest corruption scandals this country ever had. His only positive is that he isn't bolsonaro

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

one of the biggest corruption scandals this country ever had

It was the largest one in history until the one from Flavio Bolsonaro... And on what was the largest one until that famous one got caught.

And also in coordinating a criminal voting ring in the Legislative

Still both of them added up don't come anything close to the Bolsonaro's one, and the Bolsonaro's father coup attempt was way more explicit.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I never said he was worse than bolsonaro. I just said he isnt a saint

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

you were framing it as worst than boslanaro.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

Literally wasn't, the poster was agreeing with me look at his follow up comment. Learn to read

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

I was not disagreeing.

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Want he cleared? While operation carwash was real, it became a political weapon doing US style overcharging shakedowns?

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah. They just decided the evidence couldn't be used but the evidence was real, like having a video of a murder but the judge said the camera was illegal. He also admitted on video of making use of the house that got a free renovation.

At best his entire party is corrupt but he won't condemn them, at worst he is extremely corrupt

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why didn't the left move to a different party or at least a new leader?

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Brazil has multiple parties. I myself voted for another left candidate. The problem is that everyone has been brainwashed into only considering 2 candidates

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That sucks, I think presidential systems tend favor 2 parties/coalitions, is there any chance continuous elections between 2 bad choices could lead to that kind of reform, I think most presidential weakenings were in former USSR countries as they understandibly didn't want to have presidents getting too strong.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Believe or not bolsonaro (father) is from a party that wasnt one of the main 2 so there is a chance of breaking the duopoly, unfortunately as you can see, that doesnt always improve the situation (its just a different duopoly now)