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But people also need to acknowledge that antisemitism can still exist despite the genocide that Israel's government is doing. This whole movement of recoiling any time anyone mentions antisemitism has big "all lives matter" energy, as if it's impossible for a group to be marginalized when a symbolic avatar of that group has become a justifiable bad guy.
Nobody is saying otherwise.
Maybe it's the spaces I'm in, but I've seen it extensively. The terms zionist and jew are interchangeable to a lot of people. Gaza and Israel are huge issues, but separating the Israeli government from Israeli people from all Jews has become a quagmire that the average person I think doesn't have the capacity to separate.
The only people who have done their utmost best to equate the two terms are Israelis themselves. And we cannot separate Israelis from their government because both work hand in glove to achieve their aims. Israeli society has moved towards a fascist state, and the government they elect represents that.
Under that logic every single American is fully culpable for Trump's actions. Everyone who voted against Trump but still pays taxes is responsible. Anyone who protested against Trump and Ice and donated to progressive causes has the blood of Renee Good on their hands.
That view removes the possibility of nuance, and you just conflated all Israelis with their government. This was the election results in 2022:
You said Israelis did this to themselves. That statement is asinine, and is exactly what I was referring to.
Numerous recent polls have shown that the majority of the Israeli public believe the destruction of Gaza didn’t go far enough. The ‘liberal’ politicians opposing Netanyahu criticise him for not ‘finishing’ the job in Gaza. No one believes in the fairy tale of a benign Israeli public
Do you disavow the Israeli genocide in Gaza?
100%, and I think the adult west bank settlers are valid military targets.
I also think it's difficult to hold 18 year old kids culpable for mandatory military service; I think mandatory military service should be abolished. I think the people of Gaza should be able to live safe comfortable lives against the oppression of the Israeli government, and I think Israeli citizens should be able to live comfortable safe lives against rocket attacks. I think every country in the region could justifiably go to war with each other with a child-like "but he started it" argument and the only way to get adults in the room is to be truthful about the fact that EVERYONE with any agency is at fault, and pointing at who is the biggest bad guy historically just leads to a perpetuation of the violence.
I'm not interested in characterizing anyone as a military target. Also, I'm not sure where you draw the line with who has "agency," but i agree in principle with your points. Btw, i prefer the term jewish supremacist to zionist, because it's easier to draw a parallel with my own country. We are full of white supremacists, but that doesn't mean we can attribute their sins to everyone in the country.
Israel is the primary cause of antisemitism, not the victim.
Your language just did it. You said "Israel" without any nuance for "the government of Israel", "people who support the government of Israel", or "Israeli citizens that oppose and protest the government."
It's like saying "Americans hate black people and minorities." Yea, the current government's actions support that. The current government was elected by a majority. Even those in the minority pay sales/income taxes, in effect supporting the fascist Trump regime. That being said, all Americans do NOT hate black people and minorities, and I would be offended by that classification.
I have personally watched this same mechanism cause people who have agency to oppose the Israeli regime recoil from leftist spaces and embrace apathy, making the situation worse and actually harming Gazans. Language and nuance is critical in preserving allies with agency, even if it doesn't earn internet points.
I understand the specific distinction, but when a majority wants what is happening, I also feel it is fair to say that the people want it. Sure, it's not everyone and sometimes it's 51/49 split, but that is democracy for you. Now I'm not saying all of Israel wants what is happening but since the majority wants it, I feel it's fair to say that the country Israel does want it/support it. Where else should we draw the line? Does it have to be 100% of people who want it before we can use that kind of phrase? Is 90% okay?
As an American in California that hates everything our current fascist regime is doing, it's hard not to get defensive when people paint an entire nation and all it's people with a brush based on the actions of a majority elected government; I want to give people the grace I hope they afford to me.
We don't deserve that grace