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[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 6 days ago (6 children)

If you don't save everyone, what's the point in saving anyone?

[–] Chl0r0f0rm_Angel@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Don’t save a drowning child because there could be other drowning children who didn’t get saved. /s

[–] Chl0r0f0rm_Angel@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Don't turn off the orphan crushing machine because sometimes it spares the white ones

[–] edible_funk@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Except your solutions don't turn it off, they turn it up.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] CardboardDecoy@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm choosing to believe they were being sarcastic but yeah. Don't forget that the tankies would rather have everyone die than not have every one of their demands met under their terms.

[–] edible_funk@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Literally. Tankies would gladly sacrifice every trans person if they thought it would usher in their nonsense global revolution.

[–] CardboardDecoy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Yeah and I would wager that tankies are actually even doing it intentionally some decent percentage of the time because it's a movement based in ego and supremacy, and that usually follows that they tend to have a lot of sacrificable out groups...

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Not really.

The problem with "All lives matter" is that it dismisses the fact that there is racial discrimination alive and well in our law enforcement system.

This is an argument against ideological purists kneecapping ONE movement trying to make change in order to maintain their purity. The effectiveness of that change is very much up for debate, but the sacrifice people who choose to vote are making is negligible compared to the potential impact their vote CAN make (see Zhoran Mamdani or Donald Trump for the extremes of that change).

The goal of this argument is not to discount the concerns of the people who refuse to vote, but to advocate for them to use their privilege, in spite of their disagreements, to increase the likelihood that this ONE method will have the CHANCE to try to affect positive (or at least less negative) change.

[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago

Sometimes, ya gotta punish people loudly as a deterrent. Nazis, I mean. Let's not save the Nazis.

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So if I'm in plane that's lost pressure with an oxygen mask on, I shouldn't help anyone get their's on because I couldn't help everyone get their masks on in the like 1.5 minutes you get before brain damage?

Like I know this is a slippery slope example, and I do a agree with you that you should aim to save as many lives as possible...

But FFS this is literally the same wording right-wing politicians use to break down laws and decay public infrastructure because if it can't work perfectly its not worth having, and then they let companies in to canabalize what's left.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think that's the point, the person forgot to put the /s so people who don't get it was sarcasm can see it was sarcasm.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I mean, pretty easy to tell related to the situation.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

With the range of political opinions on lemmy, Poe's law is definitely in effect.

[–] becausechemistry@piefed.social 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If you won’t save anyone, what’s the point in pretending you want to save everyone?

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What was the death count on the cancellation of us aid again

https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/07/01/nx-s1-5452513/trump-usaid-foreign-aid-deaths

But i guess you dont care about them

[–] becausechemistry@piefed.social 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think you might be misunderstanding me?

My point was that the “if you won’t save everyone, why save anyone” argument is dumb. I would rather vote the bastards running things right now out and replace them with boring and ineffective Democrats.

Sure, it would be better to put someone with a spine who will repudiate and fix everything the Trump administration has done. But the “don’t vote, the Democrats aren’t good enough” crowd would rather let even worse people run things.

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Ok i think there may have been several misunderstandings. I took the commemt ypu replied to as a facecious statement lampooning those who refuse to vote for someone unless they check every box. Spiting progress for perfection. I took your comment to be in support of that voting strategy

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 1 points 6 days ago

The argument of the 2024 Presidebtial election.