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who the fuck think it's a good idea to push bios update via windows update?, it can't even get video driver update right. Before you flaming me for using microslop windows this is my brother laptop not mine
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I don't think I had a linux distro break audio/video/network after an update in 10+ years. Maybe I've just been lucky? That said I've had countless issues with work machines after Microsoft updates
I feel like "everything breaks on linux" was created by Microsoft to sell windows lol
I kind of think it's just reputational hangover. Everyone remembers how bad Windows Vista was because Windows XP had been so great, however Microsoft came along with Windows 7 and improved the windows reputation. In the Linux world people aren't really doing big promos which garner a lot of media attention regarding new kernel versions or new DE's. Ubuntu is really the closest this ever comes but I'm sure if there was someone being a bit more like "Arch 2028! Our most stable version yet!" and hyped it all up and did a bunch of promos the reputation would shift more.
It semi reliably kills pipewire and some sometimes USB drives won't mount after a kernel update if I don't restart.
Hasn't happened in a little while though
Well yes, you've removed the running kernel from disk. It's not going to be able to load any drivers that weren't already loaded.
The running kernel is not removed. Most (if not all?) distros will keep multiple previous kernels for fallback purposes. Some relatively recent projects will wait for system calls to complete and redirect new ones to the updated equivalent (see Live Kernel Patching).
The reason some things stop working is because the kernel modules directory is replaced. The running (old) kernel tries to access a module for a newer version and says nope.
Arch Linux has the package kernel-modules-hook which backs up the old modules and points the old kernel to them while it's running. I'm not sure why it's not installed by default.
unless you a running a livepatch setup, you should always reboot after a kernel update.
or an nvidia driver update, but that's an exception.
I'm not I just run 128 GB RAM in 4 dimms on Ryzen7000 which is tricky to get running at a reasonable speed and doesn't always restart right so I'm reticent to restart
that sounds like a drag. have you tried a firmware update?
those usually help with getting ram to play nice.
Yeah. The memory controllers in the DDR5 ryzens just can't handle 4 sticks of 32. The recommendation is 2 x 48gb but with RAM prices the way they are I'm probably going to stick with the 4 32s since that is what I have.
if you're on arch, where i know the usb thing happens out of the box, there's a pacman hook you can install to fix it. i can't remember what its called but you should be able to fix it
I'm on an arch derivative (endeavouros).
Thanks I'll take a look around. It seems to happen just infrequently enough that I've never gone out of my way to fix it.
The pipewire thing just needs a restart of pipewire which isn't a huge problem.
I've had it happen multiple times because of a package that made the Windows Hello (camera) work on Debian, it always crashed my KDE after an update. Not using that anymore and haven't had any issue since.