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Rodriguez gives no date for vote despite pledging elections at UN


This is completely in line with the previous PSUV position. It's not even a concession. They have always maintained that they have free and fair elections. She is the rightful legal successor to Maduro, and she is promising to uphold the existing democratic norms of her country. That she isn't taking an outwardly hostile tone towards the nation which enjoys total military superiority over them during a diplomatic mission at the UN may come across as a betrayal to certain ultra-leftists in the US, but it would seem that the Chavistas in Venezuela do not share the same view.

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[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

now may be making terrible mistakes

Not true at all, the narrative has been definitive that the mistakes are absolutely 100% made. Don't backpedal, have a spine or admit that the people you are defending are taking it too far.

drive out any dissent so that you can have an echo chamber where everyone falls in line with how you say things are, period.

It's not just me, it's also chavista leaders at large, the communes, and a large contingency of users here. Framing it otherwise is an abject fabrication. I haven't called for anyone to banned, but we have every right to combat liberalism, and when our points are ignored, the combatting increases. We are literally communists from a tradition of marxists standing up and even ridiculing liberals for showing their asses.

successful at driving out anyone who dared question your omniscience.

How? Those people are in this thread now? Quit making things up. They continue to say their positions, I continue to say mine

never said any such thing, and I'm suspicious about your claim that someone else did, but maybe so.

Okay so you aren't following the ongoing threads on this for months, but feel confident you can speak on this. What does that make you?

You're just going to make a long list of my supposed crimes and none of them are going to remotely resemble reality, aren't you

I have been clearly and directly speaking about the entire contingency of anti Venezuela users on this website that you have decided to hitch your wagon to and even defend. You are literally sub tweeting about me, why not go back and respond to my actual points on the subject if you feel confident enough to talk shit about me personally? Most of the other users with the same positions as me are being nice and also being ignored and their points discarded. If people can't actually argue but don't change their mind about somethin or concede their baseless position they don't know about, what does that make them?

that is allowed in

I've never said what is or isn't allowed, but this is a leftist website which means using evidence to support analysis. Myself and plenty of others have provided ours, but it is ignored and when asked for evidence that delcy is a comprador and chavismo is dead they have nothing to provide because it's made up. Why are you so against people pushing against made up things? Why do I have to be nice to people repeatedly saying things without evidence but presenting it as real and true and that everyone who doesn't agree is just coping? You are a hypocrite, be consistent

You say that to people who have been reading Marxist theory for more than two decades and applying it in the real world through organizational work, community building, and direct aid to families who need it, but your reasoning for telling any Marxist who disagrees with you that they're not real Marxists like you are, always just comes down to you somehow knowing the inner machinations of Venezuelian leadership, and lying, as you have throughout your comments to me.

Wow you really know these random hexbear users on a personal level. It's interesting because as the person who has been interacting with them the whole time, my "first" reaction was to have a normal back and forth and after a long time of doing that and seeing others do that and be ignored, it became clear that their goals were not to engage with any points but to just make sweeping claims about people without evidence.

somehow knowing the inner machinations of Venezuelian leadership,

This is what all the delcy haters are doing, again, be consistent. The pro chavista HB users have consistently claimed to not know the inner machinations of Venezuelan leadership but to instead rely on the account and perspective of the Venezuelan masses. I have posted interviews with chavistas that you all have ignored, just as you continue to ignore chavistas now despite making claims about their movement.

calling it analysis - analysis that can't be argued with. It's not analysis when you're being a petty tantrum-throwing crybaby because others dared to disagree with your magically unimpeachable conclusions.

projection

neither did anyone else you're trying to bury in your bullshit accusations.

Okay so you know the intimate details of these users personal lives, are defending them and standing up for them, but have no idea what they are saying? Why are you caping for people when you aren't even following their own comments?

You can't, because I never did.

You are the one sub tweeting me personally, forgive me if I lump you in with the people making very specific and concrete judgements on the situation. I have interacted numerous times with people having a position of concern but not knowing, without being hostile. The hostility has been exclusive to users who repeatedly say nonsense and manufacture consent for more dead Venezuelans. If you don't want to be associated with those positions or assumed to have them, stop caping for those users.