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Asking about some stuff I've seen here before. Gonna start off by saying, to those that don't know what I'm talking about, don't even bother commenting in this thread. Last time this topic came up, a bunch of people on here showed their ass as being fatphobic. I didn't leave any comments in that thread, but if I had commented before reading that thread, my comments would have been sucked just like everybody else's.

A while ago, we had a struggle session over fat acceptance/fat health. Now I'm very open about how I've always found fat people very beautiful and there's never been any weirdness to that. But until that struggle session happened, I believed the common narrative that fat equals unhealthy. I actually know a lot of fat people in this mental spot, where they accept themselves aesthetically but still believe that their weight is inherently unhealthy. I haven't read this struggle session in so long, when my fat friends start being mean to themselves in this way, I don't remember the information well enough to be able to counter their cruelty to themselves and I really wanna fix that. I'm the friend that will use science to shut down my friend's self hatred. Whether it's explaining neurodivergence, drug addiction, or the queer experience, I try to make objective and undeniable observations that create contradictions in their self-hate thought paths they have to deal with somehow. I may make a few suggestions for thought paths, but ultimately I just give information and let people make their own decisions. This is my path to helping my friends liberate themselves from western brain worms, it works quite well.

Well, a while ago someone here made a comment in that struggle session that tore apart the idea that being fat is inherently unhealthy. It pretty much argued that everybody's ideal weight is different, some people are at their healthiest when they're fat and some when they're skinny, but it's individual to every given person. And this was backed up by a shit ton of pubmed links, it was very much not vibe based. Anybody that read that comment and didn't change their minds on fat being inherently unhealthy is probably a shitty person I didn't want on the site anyways.

My girlfriend is 6'3 and on the heavier side. She actually lives a pretty healthy life, definitely the healthiest person I've dated. If she wants to lose weight, I'll support her in it, but I don't realistically know what she could change in her lifestyle that would be good health wise and cause her to lose weight. She already does portion control, doesn't eat junk food, does cardio and such. Like logically speaking, based off of what I know about her lifestyle and body, losing weight sounds like it'd be unhealthy. Like she's already light headed and spacey often from doing too much portion control (not eating enough, not drinking sports drinks during our 120f heat wave because "sugar and sodium" like gurl it's literally fucking 120f outside, you need those things) I don't really think eating less and then sweating/exercising more is going to be good for her.

I do cardio with her because I know the exercise is healthy, but I think she's starting to push calorie counting territory on food. Kinda wanna help her start viewing her health past numbers on the scale or BMI index

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[–] StillNoLeftLeft@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And I too don't want to start anything, but will push back a bit on what HAES is.

Health At Every Size is not a term that means all people are healthy at every size, or even that it’s possible to be healthy at absolutely every size. HAES means that people should have access to weight neutral healthcare that doesn’t pathologize fatness, and also doesn’t treat the pursuit of physical health as a moral obligation. HAES providers work from a weight neutral lens, that recognizes the extensive impact of the experience of marginalization on fat people. Lots of times you’ll see HAES providers point out that when looking at health outcomes for fat people, we cannot separate that marginalization. Many fat people who have health issues don’t just have health issues due to body size - they have health issues due to added stress, lower quality healthcare, reduced socioeconomic status, and so on. Those issues are intrinsically linked, for many of us, to being a fat person - and they are known risks for many health issues. This is something we don’t just see in fat folks, we see it in other marginalized populations as well.

Stole it from here, sorry about the Reddit link, but this subreddit isn't all that bad and has been very helpful for me personally when navigating a glp-1 after becoming very much anti-diet.

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