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Genuine question. When I look up options for heating greenhouses its either propane, kerosene or electricity. So if you dont want to use fossil energy for any reason, why not use peltier elements which would boil down to resistive heating and moving heat from the outside to the inside?

Is it because they dont last in the weather? Or because they require a DC source? (couldnt you simply move the PSU inside the greenhouse and use any conversion losses as additional heating?) Or maybe its because you would have to possibly cut a hole in your greenhouse walls so that the peltiers cold side is actually on the outside?

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[–] viertesauge@feddit.org -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

That doesnt really answer my question. my understanding is that if I have a resisitve heater that takes 100W of power and a peltier that also takes 100W of power, the peltier will actually give me 100W + whatever heat it moves from one side to the other. So if my goal is heat, then a peltier would give me more for the same amount of electricity, no?

[–] dgdft@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That understanding is mostly correct, but when you crunch the numbers, the “ + whatever heat it moves from one side to the other”-component of the equation tends to be small in practice relative to the input energy, such that you wind up very close to resistive heating. At best, you’ll get a COP around 1.5.

That means you pay a lot of overhead for marginal efficiency gains, and if you have clean electricity to run your heat pump, you already have clean electricity to run resistive heat.

[–] viertesauge@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

yeah marginal gains are probably the actual reason

[–] Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm no expert, but from what I have been reading. It seems that it is difficult to design a heatsink that is able to dissipate the heat quickly enough before the entire device heats up and causes the cool side to warm and efficiency to drop.

[–] viertesauge@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i thought about using a cpu heatsink and fan. those are designed to dissipate 100+ W of heat.

[–] Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're not going to be able to heat a greenhouse in temperatures where frost is an issue with only 100w (~341btu) of energy.

[–] viertesauge@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

that number was just an example, of course you could scale things up as needed (multiple elements with multiple heatsinks for example)