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[–] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I'll admit I've dismissed them all as mumbo-jumbo but please correct me if I'm wrong - not eating cows (hinduism?) despite being a suitable source for protein seems pretty limiting. Living in celibacy with an odd haircut (Buddhism) is downright weird to me. Sihks seem alright, although those turbans (the name escapes me) seem oppressively heavy. Do you have any other religion in mind that isn't a tool for oppression?

Edit: Sikhs are warriors with swords as part of their uniform. Doesn't get much more oppressive than war. Scientology extracts wealth from the members to keep the leaders happy. I don't know of any "concepts and ideas" religions. Please feel free to enlighten me.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

I wanna see your bad faith uncharitable takes on Humanism and FSM, these are hilarious to see how you'll twist anything even slightly religious to look evil

[–] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

FSM is a joke, made for a dude to be able to wear a colander on their passport.

Humanism as a religion - where do we draw the line on "is a religion"? Is coffee a religion? Is Marxism a religion? Is the color purple a religion?

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Damn that's the good stuff, I'll have to share this thread with my friend, this is hilarious

[–] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I find it quite humorous how you try to defend religion by bringing up the truly defining beliefs with up to a staggering 500 practitioners worldwide to support your point. Arguing that "there is nothing to believe in" is a religion sure is something else.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago

Oh, and I forgotten about Humanism and FSM

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Oh of course, the best religion, Leveyan Satanism

[–] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Objectifying women was considered oppressive last I heard.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Leveyan Satanism does that?

It's atheism, but they formed a "religion" just so that they were able to use it as a form of activism against any religious freedom laws by going "oh, so we're allowed in right?" to show the contradictory nature if they say no

[–] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Men and older women should dress in black robes during rituals, young women should dress sexy to please and arouse the men. Naked woman to be used as an altar when an altar is needed.

Edit: granted, this is according to the Wikipedia page on LaVeyan Satanism - maybe the spelling difference is of significance?

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's literally not an actual religion???

It's a satire of religion.

[–] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know, seems some take it seriously.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Satanism is a belief that there is no god

[–] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But it's not atheism nor nontheism - seems to be a religion. :)

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

It's literally just a religion for the express purpose of pissing off theists

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Spiritualism, Wicca, Taoism to a degree, Confucianism

[–] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Taoism basically wants you to disappear so that others can decide what happens next. Very oppressive.

Confucianism oppresses women heavily, they're supposed to follow their father, husband or sons depending on what stage of life they're in. Suicide to protect chastity after a husband has died has also been a theme there, as losing your chastity has been seen worse than starvation.

Spiritualism isn't considered a religion where I'm from, can't say I'm familiar.

Wicca seems to be whatever you want it to be, where many think there are two gods, some think there are many, some one and some none. Some seemingly think karma is a thing (called something else) which is very limiting (although mostly sound), while some say there's no such thing. I guess those get a pass, as they don't really exist as a homogenous group?

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

An incredibly uncharitable reading of all of them.

Taoism especially bad. It wants you and the world to become no longer at odds, with two main paths argued for it, you shape the world, or you let the world shape you.

Wicca it's fully a faith about "customisation is the point" yeah, so it can be basically anything (though sadly a lot just use it as Christianity+)

Spiritualism is inspired by Native American faiths, and the root of it is "every thing, living or dead, have some sort of essence be it a spirit or a soul or just an amount of energy", and then from that extends the idea that because of it you should treat nature and by extension each other with respect. Rocks have a spirit, trees have a spirit, dogs have a spirit, etc.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Hindu eat beef? It's not against the religion to eat it.

That's a misconception, they just make sure they die with dignity and lived as happy a life as possible.

Which some sects argue it's impossible if they're not living a wild life in nature, and argue one shouldn't eat them ever (as there's basically no such thing as wild cow anymore.) But there's no ban, it's just seen as immoral.

Sikh having a warrior thing is funnily enough fuck all to do with war. It's a holdover from ancient times that's just stuck around as part of it.

[–] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And nazism didn't start any wars these last 10 years so it's all good? Geez, I've selldom seen cherry-picking this obvious.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It literally did? Israel Palestine

[–] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 18 hours ago

That's zionism. Don't be silly.

[–] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And those that don't eat beef out of religious conviction that it's not moral are not hindu, or is their religion not true?

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're just a different subsection of the same faith

[–] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 18 hours ago

So they are hindu and doesn't eat beef, just as I said? Wew.