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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

America is not a nation. There are indigenous nations, but the idea of an "American nation" is a fiction to justify the ongoing process of settler-colonialism.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

There are indigenous nations

fwiw: the ones that survived and are still coherent/organized enough to still be considered a nation represent a cultural/social/linguistic minority in north & central america -- an overwhelming majority no longer have a nation to claim as their own and the trend becomes stronger the further away from the anglosphere you get.

in other words: either the united states or mexico are closest thing they can identify with as part of a nation and this phenomenon is most prevalent in the american southwest and northern mexico -- geographically & broadly between salt lake city and mexico city.

and it'll forever be odd to me that the worst colonial settler examples that the world had seen thus far in the anglosphere resulted in the most intact and cohesive indigenous nations that are still in existence today while the relatively tame -- but still outrageously inhumane -- settler colonialism practiced in the rest of the latin america has relatively few such indigenous nations still going today.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

the indigenous people of canada probably have it the best out of everyone else and i suspect that carney is going to take away their resources.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That's an incorrect and dumb thing to say. Pretty sure the ol US of A exists.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

To quote a famous Georgian political activist and philosopher, "a nation is a historically constituted, stable community of people, formed on the basis of a common language, territory, economic life and culture." The US Empire is a settler-colony, and as such does not constitute an actual nation, though it is a state with citizens.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure the USA counts on all those points.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The settlers do not qualify, though, just like Israelis do not have a claim to nationhood in Palestine.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

There's also notably a South America, which contains zero parts of the USA.