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[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

You’re going to break an arm jerking yourself off that hard.

[–] Afaithfulnihilist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I remember asking my mother in the days before the election if she really thought the Democratic party leadership was willing to sacrifice America just insulate Israel from consequences and she just couldn't wrap her mind around the idea that Israel and Palestine was a big deal because it just didn't show up in her news that much...

"I don't think everybody's as plugged into the news as You are 'Faithful' I don't think that's as big a deal as you seem to think it is.".

That's when I knew we were doomed.

She should have come out publicly against Israel's behavior and said she was willing to rein them in. That was the minimum she should have done. Anybody telling her otherwise was willing to sacrifice America for Israel.

Israel was the litmus test. Can you call water wet? Is the sky blue? Is genocide wrong? Can we stop funding it?

Her failure to do this was a failure not a difference of opinion. Whoever the next candidate is is going to need to acknowledge the reality of the world and that might mean removing the Zionist lobby from the conversation entirely by force if necessary.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world -2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

For sure, actual Hitler was a way better option to let your chips fall on. Glad we avoided that whole Israel thing that Kamala was gonna do.

[–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You're gonna break the world sucking off Wall St that hard.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

"Do you want to go to the pizza place or the burger restaurant, Timmy?"

"I don't want either! I want macaroni and cheese!"

"Macaroni and cheese is not an option, Timmy, now pick from what's available or I'm deciding for you."

"No! I'm not picking!"

"Okay, we're going to the pizza place then."

(1 hour later) "This pizza sucks! It's all the burger place's fault for not appealing to me hard enough by serving macaroni and cheese."

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Libs can't help constantly telling on themselves by trivializing genocide to a mere personal preference.

"Take this gun Timmy, now do you want to murder these 10 people or those 11 people?"

"But I don't want to murder anyone."

"Fine then. If you're going to be a child about this, I'll murder the 11 people myself."

Suddenly makes it a lot more clear that Timmy is the reasonable and sane one when you don't trivialize mass murder into dinner preferences. But then, that would require seeing Palestinians as human beings.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Oh, you're talking about Palestine.

In that case, would you rather have a candidate that does nothing but pay lip service to your cause, or a candidate that actively donates your resources to destroy it?

Tough choice, I'm sure.

I do not feel bad about facetiously trivialising an argument about death and bloodshed into one about dinner in order to highlight the ridiculousness of the logic used.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 34 minutes ago* (last edited 33 minutes ago)

In that case, would you rather have a candidate that does nothing but pay lip service to your cause, or a candidate that actively donates your resources to destroy it?

Huh? Are we pretending that the Biden administration didn't bypass congress to send Israel more weapons, paid for with my tax dollars? Because both candidates objectively fell into the second category.

I do not feel bad about facetiously trivialising an argument about death and bloodshed into one about dinner in order to highlight the ridiculousness of the logic used.

The logic only looks ridiculous if you trivialize the stakes. You can make any logic look "ridiculous" if you compare it to something completely different.

[–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago

that would require seeing Palestinians as human beings

ShitLibs having actual morals instead of just vibes challenge: impossible