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I really do wonder if any of those abstainers even understand how fucking stupid they are, two years into this shit storm.
Not that it matters, it all feels inevitable, the demos would just sell out their country too, just quieter, as loud ass idiots pull tantrums until their party is in and do this wrecking ball shit anyway. At least this way has kicked people in the ass about the state of the world, if we make it out the other end without too much injury, it might just be a better world...
The abstainers still feel every bit as smug as the 3rd party vote wasters.
No doubt, and I'm sure all of this is very vindicating for them.
Sigh
Well it looked like one of 'em downvoted you before I saw your response. So there you have it.
The ml folk are absolutists when it comes to compromise, I admire the conviction, but the rubber doesn't quite hit the road of reality when you look at the big picture, it's fine, maybe I'm the wrong one
For us to be "absolutists" about compromise, we would first have to be offered a compromise. A compromise implies actually getting something that you want. We were given nothing, not listened to, no dialogue whatsoever, treated with contempt, not even purely symbolic gestures like allowing a Palestinian speaker at the convention. Meanwhile the Biden administration bypassed congress in order to flood Israel with weapons, while Harris did nothing to indicate she would act differently. To go along with that would not be a compromise, but total capitulation on everything we stand for, in exchange for nothing. That we are absolutely opposed to.
There may be some people who are absolutists regarding compromise, but all I can say is that those people haven't actually read theory. Even Lenin himself was highly critical of the position of "no compromises," but while making the distinction between compromise and capitulation.
But there isn't really a debate to be had about whether a compromise would have been acceptable in that situation because no compromise was ever offered to us for us to reject. Get them to give us an olive branch first, and if we reject it then you can accuse us of being absolutists.
Funny, bcs it's the Dems who are the absolutists on compromise. Never compromise with their own left flank, but compromise with fascists even when they could get everything they want without compromise.
Trust me, I get what you mean, I'm right there with you, but we're clearly not living in the world in which everything works just perfectly. I don't want genocide any more than anyone else here, I don't want compromise on it either, but if we wait around for the perfect world we aren't working towards a better one right now.
Ok, so get the leaders of your party to do that compromise with their own base (actually working towards a better world) instead of expecting all the people who really are working towards a better world to constantly compromise with the greed ghouls who want to burn fossil fuels and fuck children until the planet can't support life any more.
You're mistaking me for someone who is a democrat, I'm not even American. All I'm saying is that despite the fact that we shouldn't put people who support genocide in power, it seems as if they got someone in power who not only supports genocide, but has created such a fucking mess of everything else as well.
The only good thing to come out of this is shocking people out of apathy, that's one part of the equation. The other is people who don't want a compromise, and fwiw, that's the kind of people who are going to steer any hope of bringing this ship around to sanity, status quo brought these circumstances in the first place. So keep fighting the good fight, you're not wrong to want a perfect world.
It's funny because they are like, a living museum exhibit of why communism turns out the way it so often does.
Yep, and we'll do it again unless you answer to our demands of not pushing a genocider. Best of luck.
Cutting off your nose to spite your face is not a compliment.
You are the version of LeopardsAteMyFace that knew they were going to eat your face. But you were like, nah, I'm going to hug it anyway because your shoes are made with real leather.
Funny that I donβt see any of you ml users making a huge deal about the number of deaths resulting from the USAid funding, which by many estimates, is 5-10x those in Gaza.no chance that Harris would have cut that funding.
Almost as if your arguments arenβt genuine.
Besides, I doubt you can even vote in the US elections.
Funny that I don't see any of you world users making a huge deal about the number of deaths resulting from Democrats bombing kids, or supporting dictators, sending people to torture prisons.
Almost as if your arguments arenβt genuine.
Not sure what USAID has to do at all with this conversation, but I'll entertain it.
Leftists reject the notion that USAID is simply a wholesome charity. It was the US arm of soft power, and it was an imperialist institution. If you are truly interested in this "disingenuous" take, see the Jacobin article on it.
https://web.archive.org/web/20260410222517/https://jacobin.com/2025/02/usaid-digital-imperialism-trump-tech
Nice cherry picking,
You sailed right past that same article's agreement that the sudden cease in funding will harm millions.
Both points can be true, but your disingenuous quotation highlights your own insincerity in an honest dialogue.
Yes, I don't want them either, but the alternative appears to be genocide, plus a bunch of other bullshit
Thats all the Democrats had to offer as well.
Enjoy voting for Dem candidate Ted Cruz as he takes on Republican candidate mecha hitler in 2030. And then still punching left as you flail to try and understand your descent into fascism.
Don't tell us, tell the Palestinians