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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No, and yet both can be examples of socialism.

So then, you need to amend your definition to "Socialism is when the means of production are either collectively owned or state-owned," which is, again, essentially just saying "socialism is when the government owns stuff." And again, I completely disagree that state ownership inherently has anything to do with socialism. An absolute monarchy is 0% socialist, regardless of any services the king deems fit to grace the peasantry with.