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https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/natural-toxins-in-food
I'm sure you'll accept this as a source since you're directly asking about my responses for it, so we can just go over the page together if that makes you feel better. This page from the WHO describes 8 types of toxins found in plants, and we can just go over them one at a time.
Aquatic Biotoxins
Algae is generally not food, and even more generally not considered an herb or spice. Interestingly, "Shellfish such as mussels, scallops and oysters are more likely to contain these toxins than fish," so I hope your plant-free diet also avoids most forms of sea-food, as they can contain these kinds of toxins.
Cyanogenic glycosides
This is important, but I'm pretty sure the examples given here aren't herbs and spices again.
Furocoumarins
Once again, not really herbs or spices.
Lectins
Only a warning about lectins in beans, and I'm explicitly told that they're destroyed by cooking.
Mycotoxins
Here we have another concern for plants, but I'm pretty sure moldy food is a problem no matter what kind of food you start with.
Solanines and chaconine
Not in herbs and spices, and the higher concentrations you might actually be worried about are parts of the plant you don't eat.
Poisonous mushrooms
Need I say more? Mushrooms can be very dangerous, but they aren't actually plants.
Pyrrolizidine alkaloids
Again, not in the plants you would usually eat.
And so now I've gone over all the types of toxins found in plants provided by jet, and I'm sure you can agree that it doesn't say a lot about herbs and spices being inherently unhealthy. All I can ask now is for some kind of basis for your belief that all plants contain toxins, and how whatever standard you're using to come to that conclusion wouldn't also apply to meat or mushrooms or whatever else you're trying to eat.
Oh what a long list of poisons. So now you have shown that, yes, plants have ample methods of poisoning you, how do you propose to detoxify them? Most people can detoxify most of the common plant foods, but it's metabolically expensive.
But if you can afford to do so, why not just avoid all the poisons by only animals?
It kinda sounds like you didn't read their comment at all.
Yeah I didn't read it closely. I could have just pointed out rosemary has a pretty nasty list of its own
If I were to follow your precedent, my response to that link would just be: oh what a delicious herb!
Since I'm not you, I actually read what you posted, and it's pretty inconclusive. It's not an actual study, just a research compilation, so none of the methodologies or data sets are presented here, which makes verifying the claims or their relevance to human experience impossible. It doesn't define "chronic or high dose" usage, which is the only populations it's concerned with regarding possible toxicity. The thesis of the conclusion is: "More research is recommended." How damning. I like this part too: "Rosemary (Rosmarinus officinalis) contains alkaloids, phenolic acids, saponins, tannins, diterpenes, flavonoids, and essential oils and has"antioxidant, anti-inflammatory, antibacterial, anticancer, neuroprotective, cardioprotective, and hepatoprotective effects", emphasis is my own. Sounds like the benefits vastly outweigh the potential side effects.
But my favorite part, though it's technically unrelated to the topic at hand, tells me a lot about the authors of this paper: "the authors used ChatGPT and Quillbot to rephrase to reduce plagiarism" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 emphasis is my own again lol